Wednesday, May 27, 2015

Blog Direction

All, I have been doing some thinking about the direction of the blog. Seems like it's in a bit of a rut and I'm kind of bored of going through the usual motions. So it is time to shake things up. Figured I would solicit your thoughts. 

What content is boring you and could be decreased or even eliminated?

What content would you like to see more of?

What entirely new stuff would you like to see?

What sort of outside the box ideas do you think would work well here?

What do you think would attract new readers?

Thanks in advance

Monday, May 25, 2015

Memorial Day: The Light and the Heavy

Today is Memorial Day. This morning we went for a walk then the kids played in a park for awhile. After lunch and the kids having their nap I ran some errands. Came back to BBQ some dinner and have a few beers. That was the light part of the day.

The heavy part is that Memorial Day is about remembering the sacrifices of people who died fighting for their country while serving in the armed forces in the service of our nation. Thinking about the people I have known and loved who died in war depresses the fucking hell out of me.

One might say soldiers have died in stupid places for stupid reasons (sometimes true) or due to imperfect decisions by their leaders (sometimes true) or because they messed up and died for it (not acceptable to say but also sometimes true). That being said most soldiers die because war is a complicated and messed up situation and if the dice get rolled enough sometimes the snake eyes come up.

As Reid Hendricks of Valor Ridge noted sometimes soldiers (marines, etc all) do things in war they know are dangerous. A medic running through gunfire to treat a casualty or a soldier who runs out and drags a casualty across an open area through a hail of gunfire when self interest would say to stay behind cover.  The guy who organize a company sized defense then run to a damaged vehicle to man a .50 MG and hold off a Company sized enemy element through a hail of gunfire like SFC Paul Ray Smith. Beyond doing dangerous things sometimes soldiers (and marines, etc) do things they know are almost surely going to end in their deaths. The guys who pretty much fight the entire damn NVA despite being shot and blown to hell like MSG Ray Benevidez who voluntarily got into then jumped out of a flying helicopter headed into hell carrying only a bowie knife! The guys like MSG Shuggard and SFC Gordon who voluntarily go into total chaos knowing there is a high probability they are going to die. Lastly there are the numerous soldiers, marines and sailors who have literally jumped on grenades, knowing full well they would die, to save their friends.

The point I am working towards, albeit maybe not that efficiently, is  that while we could argue about whether this conflict is really in the national interest or necessary, the soldier on the ground has about as much input on that decision as a corporate restaurant worker has on the price of french fries or a mid level regional manager at a large company has on their new multi national ad campaign. These soldiers (marines, etc) do brave, often knowingly dangerous things, for the sake of whatever mission they are given at the behest of our nation and to take care of the people around them and not necessarily in that order.

I wouldn't say memorial day is a happy day, maybe it is a day for some deep reflection. 

Sunday, May 24, 2015

Trailer Discussion Continued

We talked about trailers awhile back. It is the plan for a good chunk of our tax return. I had thought about doing a sort of cargo trailer conversion type thing. This idea was pretty heavily inspired by James Yeager's sweet bug out trailer. Honestly after a lot of consideration this idea is just not practical for our situation. When Wifey and my goals were both factored in the end result was not viable within our budget and weight (towing) constraints. Our budget is realistic for a cargo trailer and some stuff but not for the high end ultra light travel trailers that would have everything we would like.

The end result is we went back to the original plan of just getting a cargo trailer. We fiddled with the used market but haven't really seen anything. Digging around in the general area we can get a 6x10 with a side door and the V front which helps a lot with drag brand new in the $2,300-2,600 range. Of course there will be taxes, registration, etc so the end result should be a shade under 3k which is well within the budget.

Basically I am looking at a 6x10 enclosed cargo trailer with a side door. I would prefer a V front and not black paint (due to heat) and if it has a light that would be great. Something like this.

Taking a step back I should better define my goals for a trailer. First and foremost we have two huge dogs so the cargo space in our (practical with one kid and no dogs, probably not so practical with two kids and two dogs) family hauler to do things like camping trips. Secondly I want to be able to move various large things on the occasions (say 5-6x a year) where I need to do that. Moving a big table or some firewood or a couch, the bi annual PCS or whatever. Third (intentionally) is some sort of a bug out scenario. Honestly my concern here is about some sort of a local/ regional event. Not the much talked about zombie apocalypse/ TEOTWAWKI but the sort of thing where it is prudent to pack up the things you really like and to see a sister in Houston or stay at a Holiday Inn in Arkansas. In case A) life support was not available where we ended up or B) A local/ regional event grew wider it would be nice to have say a nice car camping setup with a good tent, pots n pans, sleeping bags and clothes,  a stove with plenty of fuel, etc all, enough food to see ourselves and maybe some friends through a realistic worst case scenario of 4-6 weeks, guns sufficient for protecting ourselves and maybe gathering game with plenty of ammo,  some capacity for charging batteries n such via the Honda EU2000,  the chainsaw n such would be awful nice to have. The end result of the third goal is with a trailer we would have a whole lot of capabilities.

With  preparedness in mind my plan is to have the trailer packed and ready to go for a good camping trip. This means clothes, sleeping bags, diapers for princess, etc all. I plan to store fuel in it sufficient to give us plenty of range with some cans left over to fuel the genny.

So anyway I have a couple questions to pose. 1) Do trailer manufacturers matter? Presuming fairly common names (probably going to buy from Big  Tex) are most trailers basically the same for a normal end user who is not hauling vehicles or whatever very heavy stuff 100k miles  a year? 2) For a basic trailer beside a spare tire (ready to go on a rim) or two and a good jack with a stand (or a 1ftx1ft piece of 1/4 in steel) what would you add on to a trailer? If it doesn't come with internal lights I will get some of the battery powered stick on ones (the $25 ones that actually work not the $5 crap ones) would fill that role.

Input is appreciated.

Saturday, May 23, 2015

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Wednesday, May 20, 2015

7.62 Battle Rifle Thoughts and Tattler Lid Deals and Directive 21

I have been thinking about 7.62 battle rifles a lot lately. Not buying one any time soon. Honestly over the rest of this year my gun goals are to perfect my systems, save enough cash to take another CSAT class and close out a few odds n ends. Specifically I want to buy a case of 5.56, a few boxes of 150 gr .308 SP ammo and a couple of .380 auto plus some various magazines. That will pretty much take all of my projected gun money for the rest of the year.

About a year from now I will be looking at a semi auto .308 unless I sell some dead weight to get the ball rolling which is a possibility I am pondering. The PTR-91 offers some big advantages and is the forerunner. A couple other guns do interest me.

The new DSA SA-58 Voyager brings in a big name FAL for about $1,100. These are to the DSA FAL what the Kahr CW line is to their P series. A gun with some, largely insignificant modifications, that ends up bringing a high quality gun into peoples hands at a more affordable price. This has the up side of giving me the most popular (at least world wide) 7.62 battle rifle with very deep options for customization or scrounging spare parts. This could also be handy in some potential survivalist scenarios as those evil foreign troops might well be packing FAL's. The down sides are 1) parts are fairly expensive and 2) The only reason the FAL is still alive in the US is DSA. It is for all intensive purposes a one manufacturer system as the old rifles, parts kits and mags dried up a long time ago. The logistics of the FAL are only going to keep getting worse. [This could also be said for the G3/PTR-91 though it is ten years or so behind the FAL.]

The DPMS 3G1 7.62 is pretty much everything I would want in an AR-10. Shipped to my LGS it would be in the $1,450 range which is more money but this gun has a lot of cool features and relative to the AR-10 market is a good buy. Mags are the same price as for the FAL ($20ish) and parts, which not cheap are widely available. My extensive training with the platform would help considerably with the learning curve. The downside is cost: For the price of a 3G1 I could get a PTR-91 with 30 magazines and a full spare parts kit. Since I'm just barely realistically in a place to look at a 7.62 semi auto good for anything but bubba dumping at the gravel pit this is a significant consideration. The biggest plus in the AR-10's corner is they are currently being made by a wide variety of manufacturers. The logistics for AR-10's will improve in time while the others are getting worse.

My gut says I'm too late for a FAL to make sense. They are so iconic and cool but arguably offer some of the worst of both worlds being expensive to procure and a 1 manufacturer show with a dwindling surplus of .mil stuff stateside. Sure the G3 stuff isn't getting more common but it is fairly cheap and definitely out there. For $500 one could buy a lifetime supply of mags and spare parts for a PTR. As to the AR-10 I think the market is going to keep getting better as it moves towards a standardization of parts along the M110/SR-25/ DPMS lines. Also I think prices are going to keep slipping down. There is no reason an AR in .308 costs twice as much as a similar one in 5.56.


On an unrelated note Directive 21 is offering 5% off Tattler Wide Mouth Lids and ten bucks off their regular mouth lids.

Tuesday, May 19, 2015

SA Defense Force Vets Fighting Islamic Terrorists in East Africa

Max Velocity and Peter both mentioned it. Whatever you might think of Apartheid South Africa some of those guys were kick ass fighters. After the move to majority rule a lot of very experienced fighters were suddenly unemployed. Some of them started a PMC called Executive Outcomes. If you are bored some Sunday go down the rabbit hole learning about them, very interesting stuff. They made Blackwater look like a mom and pop security guard operation.

In any case some of those guys are still out fighting for hire. They are killing terrorists, real asshole types, so I wish them good hunting.

On another note Max Velocity is offering a discount for summer training. Max's place has a nice canopy of trees that cuts the heat and the schoolhouse. I would certainly hydrate and (a thing I saw at CSAT) bring a cooler full of Gatorade. The point is people use weather as an excuse not to train just about all the time. The winter is cold, often in the spring it is rainy. Summer is hot and fall is full of holidays where we all do family stuff. Save your money, look at your calender and get the training you need as soon as possible.

Monday, May 18, 2015

What Did You Do To Prepare This Week?

-Did my dry fire 3x like a good boy should.

-Picked up a box of Remington 150 grain SP ammo.

-Repacked my work ruck. Once we finally ditch the ACU pattern I intend to unify those two systems (work ruck and BOB) into one. It will let me keep things simple and avoid a lot of duplication.

-We are working at rotating the food in the freezer.

-Bought some gold and silver from Montana Rarities the Metals Pimp.

Next week I plan to
-Dry fire
-Hit the range
-Put seedlings into pots
-Start a new batch of seedlings
-Sharpen the chainsaw
-Tidy up the garage
-List some more stuff for sale. Speaking of which I still have things from the last batch.

Sunday, May 17, 2015

Barter Town: Spring Cleaning 2015 Updated 9 Apr

Updated 4/16: If you had an eye on something but the price wasn't quite right this is the time to strike before I list things elsewhere. Send me a note with what you are thinking and we'll talk. I'm not having a fire sale but I do want to unload this stuff and put that value elsewhere. If I earn another hundred bucks I can get a case of 5.56 which sounds pretty darn good to me.

 I teased it before. Folks seemed to think my idea not to include shipping in costs as it would drag up the price of items but instead have a surcharge for smaller purchases. After deliberation I set the amount (under which a $10 surcharge will be added) as $60. The reason for that instead of $50 is that price would let someone buy an item, toss in a $10 pouch and avoid paying the surcharge. In effect I would be giving away the smaller item.

 As to procedures either leave a comment or email me at and include Barter Town in the subject line (both is the best approach). Obviously the first person to make a full price offer gets the item. If they want to bargain (which is totally fine) I will do one of four things: A) accept right away B) counter offer, C) tell them I'll see how much interest the item gets and maybe get back to them or D) outright reject their offer.

EDITED TO INCLUDE: Payment can be done through paypal ( or USPS money order.

Anyway here we go.

British Sheffiield made OEM Survival Knife. It cost me $85 plus shipping. I received this knife and immediately just didn't like the way it handled. Too heavy for it's length in my opinion. I never used it as I planned to return it. For reasons lost to time the return got messed up and in frusteration I put it on a shelf and a few months went by. 

Safariland 6285 1.5in drop holster for a Glock 17 with TLR-1 light. I know they also fit a G19 just fine. Also I believe they fit the G22/23 as holsters are generally compatible between the two.

Bianchi Model 7/7L pancake holster for a full sized 1911.Slightly used in excellent condition Asking $35.

Quality leather OWB holster for a Glock 26 though it will fit a G19 just fine. Got it in a complicated trade and don't need it. Manufacturer is unknown but it is a nice well made holster. Used in excellent condition. Asking $40.
Cross breed style holster (manufacturer unknown) for a Glock 9mm. Used in VG/G condition. Asking $30.

Bianchi (I'm pretty sure) leather IWB holster for a Walther PP/PPK. Would presumably fit similar sized guns like a Bersa .380 but again do your own research and take your own chances. It was barely used as I owned the PP for about a week but probably sat on the shelf at the gun shop for a minute so the leather is pretty stuff. A rub of saddle soap or leather conditioner should fix that minor problem. Asking $15.

Other Stuff:

Springfield leather (National Match?) sling. In very good condition. I purchased it because the Garand needed a sling. Took it off when I sold the rifle and do not have a use for it. Asking $25.
Side saddle for a Mossberg 500. Can't remember who made it and the bolts to mount it were lost who knows when. Asking $10.

Leather sling. Asking $20.

PUR hiker water filter. Asking $40. They don't make these anymore but they take Katadyn replacement filters.

PUR water filter. Asking $40. They don't make these anymore but they take Katadyn replacement filter.

My goal is to make enough cash to fund some projects. Honestly as such my primary goal is to turn this stuff into cash. Inevitably the topic of trades will come up. First of all valuing trades is hard, everyone wants to value their stuff close to new and the other guys at half the value. I tend to look at both sides stuff based on % of new price and factor in condition. If you have something else to trade I might be interested in I guess let me know. Worst case I will say no thanks.

Well that is what I have up for sale now. Please let me know if you have any questions. Barter Town is now officially open.

Edited to include: This post is going to be bumped to the top pretty consistently until the spring cleaning is over and Barter Town is closed.

Saturday, May 16, 2015

Todays Events

1) The 30 pound ish female dog we are fostering is humping our 100 pound lab/ dane mix like crazy. Obviously he is at least neutral about it since he's 3x her size. Both are altered so breeding is not an option. I think they have a fundamental confusion about how this works.

To make this even more awkward she has a cone around her head.

2) While going into a store
Walker - "Without my (sun) glasses I can't even read"
Me- "You can't read anyway"

3) Apparently our 105lb female bull mastiff (mutt) has taken to laying on the outside table. The outside table is made of glass and I wouldn't say it is fit to be load bearing. I'm probably going.  to start keeping the table on it's side since this is going to end badly.

4) I was going to BBQ and asked Walker if he wanted to come outside with me. He said "I can see you through the window."

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Friday, May 15, 2015


It was the middle of the night and we were coming up to a little house in the woods. The moon must have been pretty full since we could more or less see and were not using NODs or flashlights. We were doing some sort of a snatch or a hostage rescue, it wasn't exactly clear. In any case we meant bad things to some folks inside but weren't going to say throw in firebombs and shoot everyone who runs out.

We were some sort of a small team or band. We had AR-15's and some gear. Our clothes were a weird mix of civilian tactical type stuff and redneck outdoor clothes like Carharts and flannel. We all had beards to varying degrees.

We got lined up on a side or back door which was apparently our piece of the plan. I was second or third in the stack. I was carrying a plane jane flat top AR-15. No rail or lights or optic or anything. For some weird reason I had it in this black cloth carrier thing. I realized standing there waiting I didn't' have a bloody round in the chamber and the buttstock was collapsed. I really wondered why I was so silly to do such a thing then tried to fix these issues as quietly as possible.

There were other teams involved coming at the house from other sides. We knew they were on our side but didn't know them. We didn't exactly know what they were trying to do. Some people went in the house quietly from another side. There were people all over. The last thing I remember was thinking this was going to be a complete cluster F and we would likely end up shooting each other to pieces.

A couple nights later.

I was part of a team. We had a job to do but I don't know what it was. We were being moved from place to place by members of our larger group. We were hiding from a larger and more powerful force. A guide took us to a huge wall in the desert. Like a mix between the Maginot Line and the giant ice Wall in GOT. From the outside it looked abandoned. We slipped in.

There were apparently rooms inside every so often with fortifications and such. We went to one of them. I don't know why but the plan was to hide above the ceiling in the fort. The first guide dropped us off there with a new host. Awhile later we went down a long hall to another similar room.

Somehow we came out of a tunnel. There were bad guys and zombies. They saw us. We had to kill them all or the word would get back to the other side about us being there. Also Zombies are just bad. After a brief fire fight we were ultimately successful. Why a big loud gunfight and a pile of bodies was more discrete than one guy getting away I can not say.

We moved out of there to go to an alternate hide out to wait until time for the next step.

Thursday, May 14, 2015

Range 15 The Movie Indie Go Go

I've pretty much sworn off promoting these for people. Some how or another every time they fail to live up to the deal. However these guys didn't ask me to do this. Honestly they don't know I exist. Matt Best makes hilarious youtube videos that I enjoy. He and some other guys are trying to get the cash together to make a war movie. A was movie where the uniforms are right and tactics are good would be great. Granted Acts of Valor nailed that but it was pretty one dimensional otherwise.

Honestly a movie that shows us having the full range of human emotions, goofing around and then getting serious to do bad things to bad people would be great. Give if you can and share as widely as possible.

Letting Matt and Nick speak
Hollywood wants our movie. They want to take it, castrate the script, cast a boy band to play us, and then spend two miserable hours hashing out how war is hell. Fuck that. Let’s do this our way, blow some shit up, and make the best military movie ever. We’ve personally pushed all in on this. We aren’t wealthy people, but we’ve sunk every dime we can sink into this movie, and this is by far the biggest project any of us have ever taken on. We can’t finish this, and give Hollywood the middle finger, without you.

Quote of the Day: Bill Jordan on Stashing Guns and Ammo For SHTF

He turned around to Bill and asked, “Mr. Jordan, what battle rifle would you stash away?”
Bill took another sip of his vodka tonic and said, “I’d put away a Smith & Wesson Model 19 and a box of cartridges.” Bill being from Louisiana, it came out sounding like “Kat-i-ges.”
Our local gun expert realized that Bill was a little hard of hearing, so he said, “No, Mr. Jordan, I meant what kind of AR would you want to have hidden away.”
Bill smiled, finished the vodka tonic, and said, “Sonny, I heard you the first time. And my answer is a Smith & Wesson Model 19 and a box of cartridges. If serious trouble starts and you can shoot at all, you can get whatever kind of little machine gun you’d want to carry. You could even get a little Jeep to drive and maybe even a nice looking uniform to wear… if you can shoot!”

Wednesday, May 13, 2015

CSAT Tactical Pistol Operator Course Review

Today I am going to be reviewing a pistol course I recently attended. I went over to Combat Shooting and Tactics (CSAT) for their Tactical Pistol Operator Course.

The good:

A significant reason why I chose to train at CSAT was it's owner and primary instructor Paul Howe. Without overly 'tooting his horn' there is not anyone involved in modern tactical firearms instruction with a significantly better background to do what they do than Paul Howe. [Though he has a few peers such as Kyle Lamb, Pat McNamara, Larry Vickers and Frank Proctor, plus surely some Navy guys with similar credits.] He spent over a decade in a tier one Special Operations unit as an NCO. He was either doing bad things to bad people, or training others to do bad things to bad people for over a decade. When it comes to tactical weapon employment and self defense arguing anyone has much, if anything, on Paul Howe is an uphill battle.

This class starts with a brief introduction to firearms safety as well as the procedures they want you to use for clearing, loading, etc handguns. At this time the rules of the range and administrative considerations were discussed.

We also had a brief discussion of gear options with a focus on a tactical, assault type set up.
After the admin notes we had a period of instruction on drawing, gripping and firing a pistol. We then moved in to a drill based on the instruction.

The way the class worked is that we would come together for a period of instruction. After the period of instruction we would execute a drill. This broke pretty evenly into modules that were 45-50 minutes long. After a module we would reload magazines and ‘fluids in/ fluids out’ then move to the next module.

The class flowed in a logical, cumulative sequence. We took a break at lunch to eat then got back at it till about 4pm. The next day we got together at 8 and began again in the same format as the day before. It ended around 330 on Sunday.

I cannot necessarily recall every single drill or the flow of them but it all worked really well and built on itself. We trained on a variety of drills and the kneeling position.

Instructors were present and walked the line giving reminders and additional guidance as needed. They did a real good job of tempering this to the individual students experience level which varied widely. The DPS SRT member was on a different level than the eager, but decidedly new to guns, couple from San Francisco.

Day 1 ended with shooting some standards and being videotaped.

Day 2 began with watching the video from the end of Day 1. Being able to watch ourselves was a valuable visual of our shortcomings. Reminders were given. Following that we discussed some tactical issues and went over some real world shooting cases. Additionally we had a discussion about concealed carry gear, rifles and active shooter type bags.

After building fundamentals on day 1 we moved into different scenarios for day 2. First we worked on moving with hot weapons around people and shooting for precision in a hostage scenario. Next moved around/ between and shot from vehicles. After vehicles we worked on point of aim on a target wearing a t shirt and shot standards. After that we shot from behind barriers. The class culminated with us shooting the CSAT instructor standards to receive a score which can be used as a reference point for the future.

Specific take aways. Way too many to mention.

Draw to high ready and firing was trained. It was in line with the modern isosoles method but not strictly speaking a ‘4 step draw’. Paul said the reason for this is a fixation on sub steps (between holster and shooting) leads to artificial stops in the middle. This lead to a draw with the hands coming together at the high ready then pressing out fast into position, prepping the trigger while extending the arms, and shooting once you get the front sight. The result was a smooth movement that was natural.

Draws started from what Paul calls ‘interview stance’ in a natural athletic position with your hands together at roughly chest level. The reason for this is it’s a good universal position for a potentially violent situation. You can fight with hands, block, etc from there.

From other life experiences this is a good compromise between some sort of fighting stance which is aggressive and can be seen mistakenly by witnesses and being ready to get clobbered with your hands at your sides. In the past I have used the open hands towards people stance but Paul’s option is just fine. Really the difference between a fighting stance and these other stances is fists being closed and slightly higher. Either way the point to have your hands up and ready to react is significant.
Natural point of aim was a big point of the class. Going from a natural athletic type stance such as ‘interview’ through your draw should put the front sight on target at pistol fighting ranges. We still used sights but the goal is through proper mechanics that when you make the decision to shoot and your pistol leaves the high ready it lands on target.

Since we decide to shoot when leaving the high ready the trigger is being prepped from that point to full extension where you shoot. This movement is quite fast. The goal was under 1 second to hit a 6X13 vital zone at 7 yards. I achieved this goal albeit dead on with no margin for error.
The point to do things consistently was significant in the class. Example, every time you work the slide on a pistol grab it overhand. I was definitely guilty of using a ‘pinch’ technique for administrative stuff in the past so this was a point of improvement for me. The point of this is to be consistent across the board.

Dove tailing from that point the key that shooting is really all about consistence was pressed.
Both in the course of instruction and on the spot corrections to shooters Paul made a big point of only adjusting one thing at a time. I believe in the course of instruction the reason for this is to isolate a variable and guide shooters to the right answer FOR THAT VARIABLE. Over the course of instruction we worked through these in a logical sequence to end up in about as good of a place as a person can get in 2 days. For on the spot corrections Paul did the same thing. The reason was that a person can only really focus on changing one or maybe two things at a time.

The importance of automatically re acquiring your site picture after a shot was made. The reason for this is that it saves the time of doing so and thus speeds up the follow up shot if needed.
In a tactical sense we discussed managing encounters. The basics being awareness, verbal engagement [“I don’t want to talk with you today. Get away from me, do it now” doesn’t leave much room for ambiguity. If somebody ignores that they are deaf or planning something bad.], the use of objects such as vehicles or gas pumps to create space and such. This also lead to some interesting discussion on use of force with currently serving LEOs in the room.

Use of force is a really complicated discussion and I would not hesitate to give any form of legal advice. That being said one might want to look at how their state treats civilians in use of force scenarios. In say Texas the odds are a person who acts reasonably is going to be OK, not so much in California. Just another thing to think about.

So much more stuff than I could remember. Honestly it was 2 days of drinking from a fire hose.
The Bad: I wasn’t able to take this class last year. Was signed up but work messed it up. Something came up and it was going to be OK, just narrowly. Our schedule was delayed 3 days out (from the class) and I was stuck in the Middle East. Paul said no big deal and cut me a full refund. A year later it worked out for me to take the class.

The Ugly: I didn’t take this class a decade ago.

Pistols- The class was probably 40% Glock, 30% M&P, 15% Sig and the rest were a mix of different pistols (a couple of those new H&K’s and I think some sort of new Walther.) Two of the SIGs were duty guns for Texas LEO’s and the other was a guy from San Francisco. He had a real hard time managing the DA first shot on that gun. Darn near pulled every one of them. He is going to buy a Glock.

Most folks shot compact or full sized handguns. A couple guys had subcompact Glocks. One swapped out in favor of his G19 and the other has a young guy (like under 18) who shot Dads Glock 30S the whole time. His had was pretty darn sore. Most guns were in 9mm, there were quite a few .40’s, about 3 .45’s and one guy using the Texas DPS issued Sig in .357 SIG.

Most shooters were using some sort of OWB kydex belt holster. A few like me had drop type rigs. The LEO’s were wearing their Batman Belts with Safariland holsters.
I used a TT Duty Belt, my Safariland 6125 with a ghetto rigged leg strap, and a TT double mag pouch. Would have used my HSGI rig but I wanted to keep it simple. From here on out I will practice mostly with the HSGI Costa Leg Rig.

Planned Gear Changes:
Pistol- Grip force adapter to let me get a slightly higher grip and have more surface area on the gun.
Gear- I could use a couple inch longer leg strap for the Safariland. Otherwise I think I’ll stick with that rig for awhile and see how it goes. I need some of those belt keepers to keep my inner belt and duty belt together, especially if I’ll be wearing it for awhile.
Conclusion: The class rocked and I strongly recommend it.

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