Sunday, July 20, 2014

Military Vehicles on Roads. A Nonevent with Common Explanations

About every few months somebody in the survivalist (though more lately 'patriot' community) sees a few military vehicles on the road then takes a picture. They talk about how it is a clear sign that the Federal Gubmint is coming to put them in FEMA Death Camps or the UN is invading or at the very least it is a clear breach of Posse Comitatus and or conditioning in preparation for one of the aforementioned operations in the future.

Let's take a deep breath and remove our tin foil hats. Also we might want to remove our body armor and loosen any pistol belts. A drink of water is not a bad idea either.

This is a classic Ocams Razor scenario. There are reasons military vehicles might be moving around on the open roadway that are far more likely than any of the above mentioned scenarios.

The simplest explanation is that a group of service members and or their vehicles need to get from point A to point B. Despite what you heard on midnight SW radio or some forums we do not have magical underground tunnels with roads inside. If we need to get 40 people and their vehicles to a place to train, turn in vehicles for upgrades, maintenance, etc we usually just drive there like anybody else.

At all but the biggest bases we may need to go to other areas for training. Example: while Fort Lewis is a huge base the amount and type of ranges there are limited. If we want to shoot larger weapons or conduct bigger scenarios we have to go to Yakima Training Center in central Washington. Yakima is a huge largely open training area. Think of it like the equivalent of a gravel pit where you can shoot however you want for the Army. In many other areas there are similar needs to go to a different area to train.

Sometimes loading vehicles onto trains and sending the soldiers in buses is an option, other times it does not make sense or the option is entirely unavailable. Maybe there is not a rail line right by where we need to go or the timelines do not work. Maybe due to obscure government budgeting stuff we can buy fuel and spare parts but not pay for buses.

In particular during the summer months reserve and national guard units will conduct their 2 week annual training. These groups are often located in small enclaves all over the place. This is especially true of the guard which might have 1 platoon in a town, a company in the next town, etc. All of these groups will need to gather into larger groups and travel to some sort of base to conduct their normal annual training which is typically split between knocking out various requirements (weapons qual, various mandatory tasks, etc) and some sort of scenario based exercise or war game. These things happen every year. The guard in particular tend to do 1 big scheduled event very year at the Brigade or even state level. If you looked carefully through the local news it would probably not be too hard to learn that the XX Brigade which is the XX State's guard unit is conducting their AT at Fort Whatever from 1-15 August.

These groups stop at various points along their routes for the same boring reasons you stop on a long drive. Mostly soldiers need to pee, get another giant monster and more chew or maybe pick up some snacks.

Look is you see armed soldiers (or marines) setting up check points [not to be confused with directing traffic if a vehicle breaks down, etc] or machine gunning people it is time to worry. Actually at that point it is probably too late but you get the idea. 

The comments section here could be interesting. By all means chime in with your opinion.

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

I thought most sheeple were smart enough to conclude that a majority of these vehicles on the highways are INDEED national guard training sessions. Apparently not. Where I do think most folks have a legitimate concern are the new homeland security vehicles now on our roads.

Pineslayer said...

Where is the fun in thinking without paranoia?

When my Deuce is driving around, I wonder what the sheep think?

Personally when I see a convoy I want to salute and wave a flag.

When I see UN soldiers I will get defensive, until then I want whatever they driving.

Aesop said...

I get ten points credit for the first person to say that the fact that no one can prove they're up to something sinister is proof that they're up to something sinister.

The biggest concern when we did 200-mile road marches to get to training was making sure some bored E-2 sitting in the rear vehicle didn't make a "Show your t*ts!" sign with an MRE carton cover and a grease pencil, and flip it towards civilian vehicles passing the convoy.

We really didn't have much time for oppressing the populace any other way, and were generally hopeful that our POS lowest-bidder prime movers could make the trip without something important crapping out on the way.

But that doesn't sell ads on "Coast To Coast" at 3AM, so clearly it's more Illuminati Bilderberger world bankster Joooooooooos! secret Zompocalypse preps in plain sight.

These posts are the answer to the question "What happened to that kid who ate all the craft paste in kindergarten?"

Anonymous said...

First, I love my country. I don't, however, trust my gov't. That said, convoys make me feel 90% pride and 10% suspicious.

Pineslayer, I agree. When I see bluehats it's time to lock and load.

As to Aesop's last question, I'm doing fine, living with a very large woman, 2 large dogs,and 2 mangy cats in a double-wide in Sparks, NV.

DRJ

Anonymous said...

I enjoy reading bumper markings on the vehicles to determine if they are Natl Guard, Reserve or active units.

Can usually figure out who is going to/coming from Annual Training or going to weapons qual for the weekend.

Anonymous said...

Yogi Berra was famous for his highly intellectual quotes, one of which was "You can see a lot just by looking around."
I'm all for looking around. Anonymous is right on
How many convoy serials have you bloggers commanded?
DOD Regulations require convoy serials to be marked clearly with signs "Convoy ahead" and other safety related equipment to conform to State and Federal Transportation regulations. (not just wide load banners with no escort0
Military Vehicles in CONUS must have their unit stenciled on the front and rear bumpers for easy ID with convoy serials written in chalk that is why they are referred to as chalks when they are assembled for deployment. Mainly so the MPs can write them a ticket for speeding.
The video was poor quality but it is clear to this old guardsman that it was not a Guard unit heading for AT or crew eval and qual.
It appears to be an RA road trip but it isn't headed for the border with Mexico.
The key question is are the really knowledgeable people always vigilant?
I don't have a tinfoil hat but may get one if this S#@* keeps up.
I'm curious though as to where they came from and where they went? The truckers would know.
My 8 year old grandson would have asked them where they were headed at the Rest Stop when they had to take a pee and then quizzed them
about how their equipment stacks up against Bradleys, BTRs, BMPs and Barretts
Are these strikers part of the Ready Brigades brought back from Iraq and deployed through out the U.S.A.?
Is one of these Brigades assigned to Ft Knox or Blue Grass AD?
Were they on a deployment exercise or just
out for a Sunday drive perhaps?
Where were they going to play?
Garand & Lawson say in their great book "The End of Civility" that "There is no such thing as a false alarm."
Its good quick reaction drill practice. Never forget that friends.

riverrider said...

yeah, normally its just that, but people looking for a reason to freak out will. that said, i saw a crap ton of obsolete m113a3's going west from ft.pickett(reserve armor training hub) on a variety of trucks and semi's. they were newly painted desert sand and no unit markings. i wondered if they were going to onedogville, oklahoma pd, but a better explanation is they have likely been sold or given to one of our "friends" in the region like so much more hardware. locals were already spazzing about marine training, like it doesn't happen every summer around here.

Commander_Zero said...

My experience has been that the convoys themselves (or the railroad equivalents) don't raise a lot of fuss UNTIL some 'expert' says that those were BMP-23's or BTR-60's and they were painted UN white. (And I suppose thats quite possible if theyre moving OPFOR armour for familiarization or study or storage).

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