Friday, March 18, 2016

Silencers


I got into a discussion with a couple guys from work. Both seem to be big gun guys and one is into silencers. It turns out the whole fairly decent NFA trust rules change in July. So if a guy wanted to pick up a can or 3 and be able to give them to his kids he would need to do something about it pretty soon.

The con's of silencers are being on another list and the cost. I'm not that worried about the list thing. I'm probably on a list or two anyway. The $200 for a tax stamp plus the cost of a suppressor puts them at several hundred bucks or more a piece. I will have to look at the money situation but silencers might well be my little divorce present to myself.

A 7.62 can, a .45 can (with 9mm insert), and either a 5.56 or .22lr can (initial research says 5.56 will work for .22lr if you clean it regularly so screw apart helps) would give me a ton of options. Very rough price tag for the full meal deal would be a bit above 2,500 including the NFA trust. Now I could get the kinda OK one suppressor option or the fairly decent 2 suppressor option if the cash for the full meal deal doesn't come together.

The pro's are significant. Being able to shoot with minimal hearing protection would be nice. Shooting the random annoying animal in a safe but kind of near town scenario would be handy. The tactical benefits would, within some scenarios, is significant. Having a house gun that won't deafen me (if I forgot to put on ear's) would be nice. Also the possibility for discretely harvesting game or sentry removal could be handy.

This came on pretty fast for me but if I am ever going to do it and be able to give them (legally) to my kids down the road the time to do it is now.

Thoughts?

10 comments:

fltactical said...

I am a full supporter of the sound suppressors. My 2 cents: spend the extra money and get a titanium suppressor. I have moly suppressors and hate the weight. Dedicated .22 cans are light. But for the .556 and above, go with titanium, you won't regret it. Also, love he QD suppressors. Can't switch between the .22 and .556, but it sure is nice to be able to pop them on and off while leaving a flash hider in place. Also, you can lock-tite the flash hider. I have had constant problems with my screw on suppressors, and if you get a baffle strike from the can coming loose, you're screwed. So, in summary, get QD mounts for your weapon and avoid the screw on types. If you want a .22, get it and spend the money. No brass shavings and carbon build up on your suppressor that you will be using with your battle rifle.

One final thing, spring for a Nickel Boron BCG... the carbon back gasses are filthy!

Commander_Zero said...

I've a Sparrow for my .22 and love it. Im planning on getting a couple more suppressors in 9mm for the Glocks, Uzi and Evo. Thought about a .223 suppressor but since its still supersonic, it seems less urgent than the others.

Anonymous said...

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Kyle said...

I got a AAC Ti-rant in 9mm a few months ago, and now with the rule changes I just bought and waiting on a silencerco Omega in 7.62 and a spectre ii 22lr. I don't even own anything in 7.62, I just plan on using the Omega on my AR-15 for now. From my research it suppresses a 5.56 pretty damn good. I'm no expert, but from my understanding you wouldn't be able to give them to your kids later without going through the new hoops they've created(fingerprints and all) I think they can only be beneficiaries on your trust until they are 18 or 21 not sure, but you would have to transfer it to them. Obviously an NFA attorney will know better than me. I still say buy as many as you can now. It's way easier than it seems, just a little expensive.

Kyle said...

Also check out the Liberty Mystic X, it is a do it all silencer(at least really close). If you want to get just one and done.

Jamison said...

I would say, go with Silencerco for a brand:

Omega 7.62, can have a 556 front cap, QD attachment, or thread on, lot's of options.
Octane 45, can have a variety of pistons, including 1/2x28. Also accepts a 9mm front cap.

Also, choose a dedicated 22 suppressor. My recommendation is is the Sparrow 22 or Specter 22, both can shoot a variety of rounds from 22lr, 17hmr up to 5.7mm and everything in between. The Specter is a little quieter than the sparrow but I definitely think the Sparrow is easier to clean. There is nothing more fun then shooting a 22 suppressed pistol or rifle. Like Red Ryder BB gun quiet. Talk about getting rid of critters quietly.

http://imgur.com/J3jaxAo

dominic vonella said...

I Highly recommend that you check these guys out... one suppressor for all of your rifles, interchangeable end caps for different calibers lifetime warranty and they were independently tested and came in at 131 decibels, which is fantastic

http://www.texassilencercompany.com/

Unknown said...

They are awesome. I've got several rifle and pistol cans. But...

You can't have any more fun than with a .22lr can! It's awesome. You gotta have more once you try it! The .22 is such a fun little suppressed round. Plus, teaching, training, and shooting in general just opens up to anyone you have at the range.

--LC

Anonymous said...

i use my rifles every week around the place. on the trap-line and taking care of nuisance animals. all of my friends (all of them) and family (all of them) have multiple cans, so i can use them but don't see the need for my own. even as often as i use my rifle and handgun.

for my 22, i have plenty of subsonic rounds for dispatching animals, and use it all the time. it is so quiet already, i can't justify putting a $700 can on a $200 rifle.

for my 9mm and 40, i have subsonic rounds as well, and they are quiet enough not to need hearing protection, though i wear it anyway. i've shot larger rifles with a can on them, adn love it, but again, i don't want the expense, weight, and dynamics on a rifle i use with and without a can. besides, when i shoot a big rifle, i want a big load and never notice the sound anyway. so...

one suggestion - i do 90% of my plinking and practicing with hot glue bullets. no powder, just a primer and put the bullet in by hand (reusable). i hang a couple towels or blanket behind the target. quiet, and the ballistics are similar as a regular load out to 10 or 15 yards, so i can do reliable practice that way - even in doors. way safer for speed practice or teaching the kids, or night shooting. at night the neighbors don't hear it. and talk about cheap. so again, no need for a can and the paperwork.

not knocking them, but i'd rather have 2-3 more weapons or 3-4k more rounds of ammo than 2-3 silencers. and if you aren't going to use them regular, hard to justify.

and using the excuse for SHTF need, that isn't really valid for a couple reasons.

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