Showing posts with label concealed carry. Show all posts
Showing posts with label concealed carry. Show all posts

Wednesday, August 24, 2016

Concealed Carry and Self Defense Discussion/ Observations

These are interesting times. I have seen normal people who are neutral about guns arming up. The kind of mid western women who grew up around guns and were ambivalent about them. I suspect men are doing the same but the kinds of men I interact with socially are usually already gun people so I can't say it from personal observation.

A young woman I know recently took a CCW class. She recently got stuck in a traffic jam caused by the BLM crowd and it worried her. So she took a CCW class. Later that night we talked about it and some various related topics.

One of the biggest points that was driven home was minding your own darn business. Anecdotal stories mentioned were about this where CCW holders who were foolish but well meaning ended up shooting people who didn't need to be shot. The grungy looking guy pointing a gun at another guy might be an under cover cop.

This fits pretty directly with my opinion. I am not getting involved in other peoples business unless it is really clear life/ limb/ eyesight are at risk. Two guys fighting isn't my issue. Guy beating up a girl (who I don't know reasonably well) isn't my issue. Guy starts stabbing girl I'll get involved. If I see a crime like say a robbery I am not inclined to get involved.

This is where I have a big issue with that whole sheep dog idea. I carry a gun to protect myself and mine not the whole world. For a whole host of reasons I do not feel the need to act like a non paid cop. Clearly for me and arguably for society people doing that causes more problems then it solves.

Another excellent point came up in the inevitable what if discussion. When it comes to employing a handgun if you are not sure you need to use it then you shouldn't do so. The point was that the kind of situations where a handgun can legally/ ethically be used are pretty clear cut.

Mixed feelings about this. I agree though at the same time I believe in being proactive within reason. Think about  South Narc stuff and Street Robberies and You. First and foremost you potentially have criminal encounters not become full bore crimes against you. Second if things go sideways I would rather be in the best position to win possible. I can draw from concealment in about 1.5 seconds. That drops considerably if my hand is on the gun, also more importantly there is a lot less that can go wrong. Now have the gun out and I'm around .75 of a second without anything (employment of the firearm wise) significant left to go wrong. This is a pretty big grey area. There are lots of potential variables. What makes sense in an empty parking lot with 3 shady guys at 2 am would be completely overkill for a pair of tweener kids who probably just want you to buy them beer in the Safeway parking lot at 7 o'clock on a Friday.

They talked about guns a lot. It was a SIG vs Glock thing with one each older male representatives of teams wheel gun and 1911. This brings up a couple significant points.

Firstly most guys worry about things in exactly the wrong order. We think guns/ gear then skills then legal stuff and prevention. It should be the exact opposite. We should care about avoiding problems/ knowing the right response then shooting skills and after that the gun we carry. A bad ass like Paul Howe or John Mosby is going to win a gunfight with a rusty Charter Arms snubby. Heck a moderately trained guy like me probably will. On the other hand a person without a clue what is going on who can't use a gun can have the best gear and they are next to useless.

Second she showed me a picture of them all sitting around. The reason this was noteworthy was the handguns on the table. Full sized double stack pistols, some of them with lights. My general observation is this is almost intellectually dishonest. Most people simply will not regularly carry one regularly. The joke that when someone says they carry a full sized handgun to ask them to show it to you NOW (and they will mumble an excuse and probably be carrying nothing) comes to mind. I worry some people have an all or nothing idea and instead of being like cool guy John Mosby and carrying a G19/17 with 2 spare mags, medical stuff, etc which is a hassle they instead carry nothing.

I'm done writing for today. Maybe more will come out tomorrow.

Monday, May 9, 2016

Sheriff Jim Wilson on Empty Chamber CCW

The man speaks. 

Ryan's thoughts:

No, Just no. You would be well advised to note that of all the top tier trainers out there to the best of my knowledge not one recommends this as a method. In fact if someone recommends such a method  they are likely a buffoon whose training is worth exactly as much as their BS resume. If you are not comfortable carrying a gun loaded (and an empty chamber is not loaded) then you shouldn't be carrying that gun or maybe for that matter maybe any gun.

I can think of two very limited exceptions. The first is temporarily getting used to a gun/ holster set up. Weird things can occasionally happen with a new type of holster. Better to find out if it makes the gun go bang with the chamber empty. This should needless to say be done at home.

The second is if some odd situation made you carry a gun in a manner where it would not be safe with a loaded chamber in a way you currently didn't have the right gear for. Say I found myself for whatever reason needing to carry a Glock Mexican AKA thug style (basically appendix W/O holster) or tucked in the back pocket of a pair of jeans? Maybe I had to slip one in a standard pouch in a backpack or gym bag? The answer is an empty chamber.



Tuesday, April 12, 2016

Reader Question: Carry Permits

Anonymous Andy said...
What's your take on shall-issue states? I don't have my pistol permit because the state I live in has a permitting scheme about as invasive as an anal probing. Would you get it? Or stand on the principle?
April 8, 2016 at 7:22 AM

Ryan here: 
Shall issue vs may issue is an interesting thing. One single word in the state law matters a whole lot. Shall issue states work like this- meet the requirements and you get the permit. May issue states work like this- Meet the requirements and the approval authority (usually the County Sheriff) MAY issue you a permit, or not. They can give as many as they want out or none or just give them to their cronies and the well connected. They can deny a permit because they don't like a persons face or whatever. Instead of being limited by the requirements you are limited by some persons whim. 

To the second question get the damn permit. We could debate the principle and yes I think CCW permits are dumb. However in the real world CCW licenses are required in most states. Ignoring that on 'principle' leaves the bad options of not carrying or carrying illegally. The consequences of both can be significant. In my opinion the hassle of getting the permit pales when compared to the risks of getting caught carrying without one. You can mumble all about MAH CONSTITUTIONAL RAGHTS shelling out big money for a lawyer then in jail while trying to avoid forcible sodomy and maybe afterwords when you are banned from owning firearms. Why 'ride dirty' if you can do it legally? Get the permit.

You are way more likely to defend yourself with a concealed pistol then the safe full of rifles at home. Also if at all possible you want to legally carry a pistol. First it avoids a significant potential hassle if a cop spots your piece or whatever. Second should you end up in a lethal force scenario you start out as a law abiding responsible citizen instead of a criminal who disregards the states gun laws. Also the consequences of illegally carrying a concealed handgun can be significant. 

As a final thought if you hate the states permitting structure that much and or want to be able to LEGALLY carry without a permit then maybe you should consider moving to a place that allows that. 

Thoughts?
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Monday, March 21, 2016

REPOST: Devils Advocate- Subcompact Pistol for a Small Battery?

3/21 update. I planned to write a post today but things got away from me. So you get a repost that for whatever reason seems particularly valid to me today. Thankfully I can own more than one handgun and will likely expand that collection. However if limited to one handgun in contemporary America I would look hard at a G26, G43/ S&W Shield, Walther PPK type piece. Something you can realistically carry 24/7/365 that will be sufficient for realistic defensive scenarios. Also this relates to an upcoming post on the matter....

Say a person is going to own just one pistol? Some would say a full sized gun is the way to go but I don't like this option. The reason I do not like it is those guns are generally not very concealable. Sure they are great to shoot and as house guns but the strength of the pistol is as a gun you could carry. In general I believe if you are going to have just one hand gun it should be concealable yet also something you can fight with. Compact handguns like the Glock 19 are usually considered the way to go. I wonder if this really makes sense.

A sub compact handgun will carry better which means you are more likely to carry it. Sure many folks carry compact or even full sized pistols but most of those are pretty dedicated folks. Most folks serious enough to be packing a full sized pistol regularly (not once in a blue moon) tend to have deeper collections anyway so that point is moot. For a relatively new or fair weather CCW type a subcompact pistol is going to get carried a lot more.

In a situation where the subcompact handgun falls short odds are I will (likely) be carrying a rifle anyway. If my modern semi automatic mag fed rifle falls short or empty I would transition to the pistola. While not optimal a little mini Glock or the M&P equivalent is still pretty darn handy. The negligible difference between say a G26/27 or a 19/23 is probably not going to be a difference maker and even so the advantages for concealed carry probably out weight that.

Sure a pair of handguns is better. One for CCW and one full sized SHTF/ house gun. A baby glock and a full sized one that takes the same mags is a good option. Also a couple guys I know have little .380's and full sized .45's. Caliber and logistical complications aside I think that is a nice set up.

Thoughts?

Tuesday, January 19, 2016

Concealed or I Suppose Open Carry and Social Interactions/ Dating- My Take

I threw out

Concealed or I Suppose Open Carry and Social Interactions/ Dating

just to see if you all came up with any special gems or blind flashes of the obvious.  

 

 My take is as follows. 

I believe in being armed unless:

-Carrying a gun is a felony (or I suppose a maxed out gross misdemeanor which is basically the same). Not asked to leave or a ticket but a serious crime.

 -I am unable to make life and death decisions due to the medicinal or recreational substances consumed or some medical condition that inhibits judgement. 

 -Carrying a gun is physically prohibitive due to clothing and activities being done such as swimming. 

There are invariably some occasions where being even somewhat visibly (yes a Glock 19 under a t shirt on a normal sized person prints some) armed is not desirable.

So where does that leave me?  

If I want to be armed but do not want it to be visible a smaller gun is often the answer. Meister hit the nail on the head that a deep concealment hand gun like my Ruger LCP buys a lot of options. Any normal male attire can hide that little gun. A gun nobody can see is a gun that is not going to cause any sort of issues. 

 Granted it is not optimally armed in my book (even as handguns go) but I only go to to polite social events at places where the risk is pretty low. 

 

Friday, January 15, 2016

Concealed or I Suppose Open Carry and Social Interactions/ Dating

I am interested in your experiences, both good and bad, as well as thoughts on being armed during social interactions, dating, etc all. I know not all of my circles are rabid gun people and suspect yours aren't either. No right or wrong answers, I am just curious.

Thanks in advance

Sunday, January 3, 2016

REPOST: Man Points Gun At Carjackers Head

Here is a hint. Avoid carjacking large men wearing Carharts driving low end commuter cars. Doubly so if they have crazy facial hair. Gun or no gun it probably isn't going to be easy.
Seriously, who picks this guy to mess with?  Read the story here.

Saturday, November 7, 2015

Kyle Lamb talks Concealed Carry



CSM (ret) Lamb has mentioned his preference for a sub compact double stack auto's in appendix carry in the past. The other options he mentions are good too. Pretty much a 4 minute knowledge bomb.

Incidentally Paul Howe carries a G26 appendix. John Mosby packs a Glock 9mm of some flavor appendix also. It is interesting to see commonalities in the equipment set up's of really experienced people.

Wednesday, October 14, 2015

"If you're being attacked by someone within arm's reach, you don't have a gun, y'all have a gun. It's probably best if it stays in the holster until you've bought enough space to make it just your gun again." -Tamra

The hard truth is a gun, or even a gun and the skill to use it, are not a cure all.  It is impossible to keep people 10, let alone the 15-20 feet of time/ space it would take for a pretty good pistolero to draw and fire, to say nothing of the time it takes bullets to stop goblins. Any idea otherwise is at best absent mindedly disillusion or at worst dangerously idiotic.

This is why you need to learn to fight with your body. This is why you need to lift heavy things to build power. There is not a get out of jail free card. If you are a 105 pound woman you have the plus side that justifying lethal force. Honestly (consult your local laws, etc, etc) for a woman justifying lethal force against a normal sized male criminal is super easy; presuming no pre existing relationship ie boyfriend, etc it is literally 'he attacked me and I feared for my life", but that does no good unless you can put effective rounds on target.

Going by the pretty effective theory that people should work on the things they hate the most a normal to big ish guy who has been in his fair share of fights  probably doesn't need to focus too hard to hand to hand. Yes we all should all train in everything all the time. However I know how I will react in a fight and it has generally been effective in the past. While not optimal in say 3 years if I do no combative's training my odds in a fight are not terrible. On the other hand a nice woman or a guy who has lived a life without violence probably can't fight off a drunk ass grabber, let alone any sort of actual threat.

Train to fight, with hands or guns.

Wednesday, September 23, 2015

From Around The Web

Tam is about halfway through her now standard 2k with no lube or cleaning test with her sweet 1911. So far there are two failures (one of which might well be attributed to questionable random ammo she had) which is pretty solid. Without doing math in public that is well under .01%. Also it looks good.

This has me really wanting to do some sort of 1911 project. I wanted a cool pistol to go with my FAL and have been thinking about different ideas. A nice 1911 would fit the bill. I kind of want to build a cool old school (well to me anyway) 80's era Colt 1911 with Pachmyr rubber grips and Novak low profile sights. Or I could go with the Longmire and get a plane jane one with Elk grips.

[Don't have a clue how I would fund it. Also it would not be the best way to spend that money which if I shopped hard could get a serviceable but budget M4 pattern AR-15 for a truck gun and another Glock for a rainy day but I digress. Thinking about what we want to buy/ build is half the fun anyway and 2-3 times a year money has a way of appearing so who knows. On a serious note I will get a case each of 5.56, 7.62 ball AND a truck gun M4, though maybe not in that exact order, before thinking about it.]

Oleg Volk talks about Selecting Handgun Pairs for Carry and Home Defense. My thoughts on the subject:
-Oleg makes a good point about similar methods of operation, especially for an inexperienced shooter. Commonality is good as one system is easier to become proficient with.
-The two guns need to be different enough in size to really be distinguishable. A full sized handgun and a gun on the top end of the compact range (I'm talking to you G19 and Commander Sized 1911's) do not really offer much in terms of different options.
-Magazine and caliber commonality is good if you can get it. 
- Modern upwards compatible handgun systems (Glock, M&P, XD, etc) that offer sub compact if not quite pocket sized models as well as larger compact to service sized handguns offer really good possibilities in this area. A G26 to carry and a G17 at home with a light on it by your bed is a heck of a set up.
-If wheel guns are your thing the classic combo of a little j frame .38 and a big ole .357 mag is a great option.
-I know a couple guys who have a full sized .45 for a house/ woods/ range gun and a little .380 pocket rocket to carry. This is a pretty decent set up; the only criticism I could bring of it is that they probably carry the .380 when they should have a real gun.

Thursday, August 27, 2015

Real World Self Defense and Weapons Retention

I have recently seen a couple of videos that merited sharing. In the first a man is attacked then robbed of his CCW pistol. I feel like we need to be reminded that in a significant number of cases, maybe even a majority, some amount of  movement/ fighting is going to be necessary to create the time and distance to bring a pistol into play. Everyone wants to be a cool guy and shoot fast at targets up close as well as quote some variation of the '3 seconds, 3 shots, 3 feet' thing. However folks don't seem to want to accept this means a fist fight or dirty boxing/ standing grappling/ wrestling match.


 Tam noted this guy who got beat up and had his gun stolen. Seriously a holster with decent retention would have gone a long way in helping the probably decent guy not get gun jacked. The pistol fell out when Goblin threw him on the ground. It isn't even an economic thing. The Blade Tech AIWB holster I use costs like $25. So for the price of a frozen pizza an a half rack of decent beer or bottle of Jim Beam you can have a serviceable holster with adequate retention. Even the most basic Uncle Mikes nylon holster will be like $15.

This is yet another reason I favor appendix carry. Nobody is going to sneak up and grab a pistol I am carrying at 12:15. Also that is an area where I can apply a lot of power and I can easily protect.  Here folks like to envision some sort of boxing match and their pistol safely at 4 o'clock. It ain't likely to happen that way. The person is either going to attack the gun strait away of when they become aware of its presence change angles and go for it. Now the person is fighting someone at their side or behind them which is not good. By default a person trying to grab for my gun is right in the danger zone. Taking a gun off someone carrying appendix is going to be about impossible without strait beating them into unconsciousness.

Additionally I am a big fan of knives for close in work. Some folks carry a dedicated blade just for that but I just have the one knife in my EDC system. I want one of those cool finger knife things but haven't gotten around to it yet.

This is also a fairly rare instance where breaking just one of the three cardinal rules (Don't do stupid things in stupid places with stupid people) got a guy into a problem. Usually you can get away with fudging one of the three and it is when you get to two that trouble comes. Except this time. This happened around 1 AM. I cannot say for certain it couldn't have happened at 8 pm but I doubt it.

Like Tam ECQC is definitely on my short list. In fact it is the only specifically named class (vs a generic field like 'precision rifle course')

Onto the next video.
This is worthwhile because a guy comes from a position of serious disadvantage to win. When bad guys try to decrease your mobility, restrain you or take you elsewhere they want more than money.

Also whatever they plan to do is going to make the situation better for them and worse for you. Better to fight it out, even against terrible odds, on the sidewalk or in this case in your office than decide to fight when you are tied up in a closet in a shack or abandoned building in the middle of nowhere.  I sort of figure if a bad guy plans to maim/ kill me anyway then I have nowhere to go but up by fighting in that situation.

Of course having  weapon on you helps a lot. Still this guy did great. It wasn't pretty but he went from on the ground at gun point to having a gun and engaging the bad guys and as a prize got to live.

 Thoughts?

Sunday, August 23, 2015

Range Report 23 Aug 2015

Took my trusty Glock 19 out to the range today. For the first time I brought my phone with the handy shot timer app.

My primary focus was on 1 shot from holster (concealed). Had the par time set at 1.5.
Extreme low: 1.4
General cluster: 1.45-1.6
Extreme high: 2 flat

Notes: I kept them all within a normal piece of paper (8x11?) as my ghetto convenience vital zone at 7 yards. The overall times were a bit slower than dry fire but I think the actual mechanics of the shot are under represented in dry fire. Since I didn't get any outside of the paper maybe I didn't push speed enough.

Next I practiced shooting single hand both strong and weak. That went fine.

After that I decided to try 2 shots from holster (concealed). It seemed like a good way to incorporate recoil management/ reacquiring sight picture but still keep pushing the core point of the draw.
Extreme low: 1.8
General cluster: 1.85-2.1
Extreme high: 2.5

After that I shot at some (fat) man sized steel at 75 meters. Went 50/50 or a touch better. Not too bad. Honestly instead of taking pistol shots at 75 meters I'm probably just going to run away.

Shot some probably 4" steel at about 15 yards. Was very happy with the results. Lets say I have shot that same set up in the same place before and been very humbled. Today I went probably 2 hits to 1 miss. The misses were modest (low and hitting the frame). For me that is awesome.

After that I did some more 2 shot from the holster.

Closed out with a couple sets of 4 to the body 1 to the head. I smoked the body getting 4 shots in or very near the (ghetto convenience) vital zone inside 2.3. The head shots were both good but I was slow with them at a full second after the last body shot. Too slow. The accuracy was there with the first shot going in the right eye and the second a half inch up right between the eyes its just that they were slow. Will work on it.

Now I have some stuff to work on. Next time I am going to come back and push times for improvement,

Shooting is fun

Wednesday, April 22, 2015

Pocket Pistol Rules

A few months back I was able to have dinner with Chris and Heather. The topic of very small pocket sized handguns came up. They had recently purchased a pair of them, which they were judiciously carrying. He said more or less "be careful you might end up carrying one all the time [instead of a larger more potent pistol] as they are so convenient."

Well I purchased the LCP not too long ago. It is darn convenient. However I decided that I need some rules to limit when it is used as it's certainly not ideal for every situation.

-I carry the LCP in my immediate area as it is boringly safe. This covers most of my outings.

-I also carry the LCP in non permissive (socially if not legally) enviornments.

-When I go to the bigger town I carry the G19. Not that any violent confrontation is ideal but the G19 gives me a lot more capabilities should there be 2 or more Goblins trying to accost me. It also gives me a lot more range and more rounds if we get caught up in a mass shooter situation.

Do you have a pocket pistol? Under what circumstances do you carry it? When do you leave it behind (or as a BUG) in favor of a larger pistol.

Saturday, March 7, 2015

Friday Randomness

As the weather gets better the chickens seem to be averaging an egg per- so 6 eggs a day. We are awash with eggs. Discussing this with Wifey, the master of household and culinary affairs, we are thinking about working a couple of egg n something meals into our dinner rotation. Eggs n hashbrowns, eggs n pancakes, that sort of thing. Since we already feed the chicks might as well use the eggs.

On a training note I just sent a goodly sized check to a man who is very experienced in the use of defensive/ tactical pistols. This is the weakest link in my combative/ personal defense situation. I tried to address it some time ago but things didn't work out. Anyway now I'm trying to make this training goal happen. In terms of pistol stuff honestly I am not a total newb but far from where I want to be. Not saying I completely suck but the weakest link is such all the same. While I have some ammo stashed I hope things will work out so I can get a fresh case of 9mm to take out there.

Also I spent a good chunk of time today sharpening my knives. Got to have the EDC working well.


Anyway that is what's going on here today.

Thursday, February 26, 2015

The Kahr is Gone, The Kahr is Gone Away.

Sold my Kahr CW9 today. The S&W 642 is also on dangerous ground waiting for the right sale or trade. If things go right it will be gone inside the week. A couple of things drove that decision.

Primarily I have gotten back to packing around my Glock 19 a whole lot more. How did I do this? Well I had to get some new pants. A couple pair of my pants were just plain worn out. So when I replaced them I bought pants 2 inches bigger around than I am around. Actually brought my Glock to the store when I purchased them to try them on with it. After that I went into the closet and threw out my shirts that were not sufficiently sized to let me wear the Glock 19 at 3 o'clock discretely. That combined with my blade tech belt and Bianchi professional 100 and I'm back to packing the G19 a lot.

So how does this relate to the Kahr? Well given these, not entirely insignificant accommodations the concealability of my Glock 19 is not very different from the Kahr CW9.  Since they fall into the same general footprint if I could carry one I could carry the other. Why would I carry a gun with half the bullets that I do not shoot as well? Meister was right to carry a bigger gun and dress around it a little bit. Still there are some situations where you just can't carry that much of a pistol. Or maybe you are running to the corner store for milk in a sleepy, safe area. Or it is August in Louisiana and 100 degrees with sauna like humidity and blazing sun. A smaller gun does have a role.

Looking hard at getting a pocket sized .380. It is true this is another caliber but it is the quint essential carry a lot, shoot a little gun. The kind of gun where you get 4 or so mags, 150 or so rounds of good JHP ammo, 250 rounds of FMJ for practice and call it good.

Specifically I am looking at the Ruger LCP. The price difference between them and the Kel Tec is negligible and well, Ruger makes better guns than Kel Tec. Also Kel Tec's business model of making guns with an enormous lemon rate and offering a lifetime warranty knowing they sell a price point gun to people who, on average shoot very little bothers me. A defensive firearm should work out of the box, not after being sent back to the factory twice, you doing an internal polish job and racking the slide 10,000 times to smooth out all the manufacturing mistakes. It would take a lot to convince me that Kel Tec guns to a professional standard with any consistence. I know some KT's work but many do not. Also KT's seem to have gone up in price considerably. The difference between a Kel Tec P3AT and a Ruger LCP in my AO is about $50. That is the price of a decent bottle of Scotch or a meal out for the family. If it was $100+ that would be a different discussion but for such a small difference I see no reason to settle, especially since I have the money.

So those are my thoughts on that. What do you think? Personal experiences with the Ruger LCP?

Saturday, February 21, 2015

Quote of the Day and Video

"I never planned on getting in a gun fight. I'm the first one to tell you that anyone who does involve them self in a gun fight usually made a mistake somewhere along the line."
-Bob Stash,
Lieutenant Chicago PD



The lessons of this interview are worthwhile. In his first shooting Mr Stasch's partner dumped a cylinder of .45 long colt in the goblins chest then a couple rounds of .38 special. Mr Stasch put 2 rounds of .44 mag in his chest then went for the pelvis and hit low putting one in the thigh and another in the knee which dropped him. It was a total of 13 rounds most of which were big bore revolver rounds and the man didn't die for days. Mindset was key there. This is something I learned in another place but mentality is key. Have the mindset that if someone shoots you, you will shoot them, or cram that gun down their throat. This mentality and the unwillingness to quit is very important.

Training to shoot at close distances with one hand was my other big take away.

Thursday, January 29, 2015

Carry Update, Life and the Scenario: 1k Cache Challenge at T Blog

Over the past several years I have pretty regularly blogged once a day. Recently I have not felt the need to write if nothing strikes my fancy or I am busy. Part of that is spending more time on my own fitness and preparations and just not forcing it when I am busy. Also I'm trying to focus more on quality. Would rather do 2 good posts, a 'what did you do to prepare' and an 'around the web' than 1 good post, 2 slapped together ones and a random thought. Sure I'll post a link or a quote or a cute little story if one jumps out at me but I am not going to push to make it happen.

Late last night I looked and the last time I had posted was Sunday. OOPS!!!

The Kangaroo carry holster showed up. It arrived 4 days or so after my order in a nice package. I put it on and it was comfortable. However unfortunately it did not work for me. With the horizontal method of carry used in the Kangaroo carry system I had two choices. 1) The holster is ready to grasp but prints. Not a little bit but definitely prints. Given that my concept of use for this holster is deep concealment for legal but less than permissive environments that is obviously a problem. 2) It is adjustable, highly so, to carry the pistol further around ( more armpit than pectoral) the body but that makes it harder to draw. My flexibility in getting a hand that deep to my weak side in a hurry is bad. Basically for me, while set way back, the Kangaroo carry might conceal a pistol the draw is pushing sun dial range pretty hard to the point where ankle carry looks good and sprinting back to my glove box doesn't seem like such a bad option.

The service was good and it was a nice product. I will not speak ill of them or their wares but this holster but it does not seem to work for me. The owner of this company seems to have pistols vanish with the holster but I've probably got 40 or 50 pounds on him. Maybe it is a build thing. I'm a decent sized guy who lifts weights and could maybe stand to lose a couple of pounds. [Am working on it and making measurable progress. Have 10 or maybe 15 to go.] The point is it ain't working. Thankfully they have a very liberal return policy which I plan to exercise. Again I do not have anything bad to say about those folks or their products; it just didn't work for me and as always YMMV.

TEOTWAWKI Blog threw out the Scenario: 1k Cache. A very interesting prospect. My first thought was, well my operational cache would be a darn good option.. However after looking at it even with pretty outdated prices and poor arithmetic there is no way that is a 1k cache.

My second thought is this is a pretty well thought out scenario. The topic is totally valid.  Caches are an incredibly valid topic  far too often talked about but not acted on in preparedness oriented crowds.

I thought about this for a couple days. Alexander's take on his ideal 1k cache is worth looking at. I do not entirely agree but he is a lot closer to right than wrong, at least within that concept of use. As to the dollar amount at first I thought it was an arbitrary, if conveniently round, dollar amount. Upon consideration I realized it was, while still conveniently round, a very valid dollar amount.

The reason it is a very valid dollar amount is that it is an amount that is both attainable and on the other hand meaningful. A grand is a reasonably attainable dollar amount for most people that, given some planning, they could realistically free up for an important purpose to secure their well being. For all but the lowest income people with some planning a a grand could be put back for an important reason.

I am not for a second saying anybody is a bad person because they genuinely can't throw real money at a cache. A guy with a stay at home wife and a couple little ones making 25 or 30 k probably can't throw a grand at a cache. That family are trying to keep a roof over their heads and food in bellies. If they are right minded and preparing I'm sure they are doing the best they can to work on that.

A grand is enough to have some options but not enough to get into unrealistic for most and almost silly "I'll stash a bug out bag, a few cases of MRE's, a tent, a couple glocks, three AR's plus a few dozen ounces of gold ready to go in my jeep territory,"

Will talk more about the cache discussion tomorrow or maybe in a few days the way I have been going lately. 


Saturday, January 24, 2015

No New Guns; Just Different Concealment Methods?

Every once in awhile a post gets a comment that makes me realize something significant. The best of these are what Jim Rawles calls "blind flashes of the obvious". I had one of these last night. Was going back through recent posts and saw the number of comments on my Pocket Pistol post had increased by one. Alexander Wolfe of TEOTWAWKI Blog left a comment that was a blind flash of the obvious for me.
TEOTWAWKI Blog / Alexander Wolf said...
Snubbies are considered the classic pocket gun. With the right grips / stocks, they do pocket fairly well, though they are on the big side for that purpose.
 
I'd explore carry options, too--ankle carry, tuck-in holsters, belly bands, "ThunderWear' and similar are common options for less-permissive carry and would work well with the snubbie or the Kahr, while giving you better stopping power than a 380. 
 
Ryan says: Why the heck didn't I think of this? I'm rather disappointed with myself to be honest. I decided to pursue this course of action. It had a couple major benefits. First it is always smart to start with the easiest cheapest options which for carry are definitely holsters. I can try out a couple different 'deep concealment' type methods for a fraction of the cost of a new firearm. Second I could keep carrying one of my current weapons which means a more potent caliber as well as no further logistic complications.

Ordered a Kangaroo Carry Air Marshal 3 this morning. I am hoping it works well with the Kahr CW9. In due time you will hear more about this system and potentially others. If this works out in a way that I can postpone, maybe indefinitely, getting another small pistol that would be great.

Thoughts?
 
What sort of system(s) do you use for deep concealment?

Edited to include: I don't know why some of the text is tabbed in. Tried to fix it but that didn't work. You'll have to deal.

Sunday, January 18, 2015

Pocket Pistol?

Recently I realized that with minimal changes my Glock 19 can be carried in pretty much any situation where a single stack 9mm such as my Kahr CW9 will. Given that the Glock holds twice the bullets and is well, a Glock the answer is easy on that one. Also while slightly less comfortable the Glock is the right answer. For the last couple weeks my Kahr has just been sitting around at home.

Also I was recently in a situation where I wanted to carry a gun but it was a less than permissive environment. My Kahr just wouldn't cut it and neither would the J frame.

I needed a pocket pistol. The answer to that is pretty simple, get a pocket pistol. However that means another cartridge (.380) as the smallest 9mm's are probably a bit on the large side for a real pocket gun. Obviously mags, holsters, etc would be needed as well.

My current centerfire pistol battery consists of .38/.357, 9mm Glock and the Kahr. I stock stuff deep for the Glock and didn't really see the need to for the Kahr. A .380 would be the same way. Still this would be a complication.

I worked hard to streamline my logistical footprint in terms of different gun stuff. Having A pistol that doesn't fit the wider plan is in my mind not too bad but since it has a valid role AND I wouldn't be stocking stuff too deep for it that isn't a huge deal. However it is a slippery slope. Let in a second oddball and pretty soon there will be a complete mess of different guns in the safe. Also considering my recent Kahr/ Glock revelation the Kahr's continued role in my battery is at best uncertain. It is a solidly decent handgun but just not one I'm so sure I need.

So anyway I am thinking of selling the Kahr. Thankfully guns hold their value pretty well so worst case I'll lose a couple percentage points on the whole thing. I would use the proceeds to purchase a .380 pocket pistol.  Something in the Bodyguard/ P3AT/ LCP/ CW380 size range. Haven't really narrowed it down beyond that though. Then again, especially at the bottom end of the price range I could pick up a pocket pistol then see where the Kahr sits.

So I guess we'll do an informal poll:
Buy a pocket pistol?
Sell the Kahr?


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