Showing posts with label project 870. Show all posts
Showing posts with label project 870. Show all posts

Saturday, August 15, 2015

870 Police Sold!

Sold my 870P yesterday. Honestly I realized a couple weeks ago the right answer for a home defense long gun was my AR-15. It's illuminated reticle 1x scope is pretty handy in the dark too, also the 30 rd capacity is nice. Those coupled with minimal recoil and a round that manages penetration about as well as any sufficient cartridge make it IMO the ideal house gun. The only better option would be a 10.5in SBR but I'm not willing to go through the hoops at this point.

Picture semi related. My AR-15.
Sorry it is sideways but I could not figure out how to turn it. Anyway this is my 14.5in BCM middy with BCM gunfighter CH and Battle Comp. As to aftermarket parts I put a surefire light on it, a magpul buttstock, Magpul MBUS, VTAC sling, Midwest Industries free floating rail and a Burris 1-4x MTAC with a LaRue quick detach mount. If I have a choice this gun would come to war with me for sure. As a second I would bring my FAL but this one is my main rifle.

Honestly I can not think of a tactical scenario where I would take the 870P over my AR.   I think at some fundamental level a shotgun set up specifically for fighting is kind of missing the point, kind of like setting up a leatherman to be a fighting knife. What I mean by this is that the shotguns biggest strength is versatility. Given an appropriate selection of ammunition a shotgun can appropriately take little birdies, small game, pests, as well as medium to large game including 2 legged predators inside 100 meters or so. No other single gun can do that. However IMO setting up a dedicated fighting shotgun greatly hinders the versatility that makes the shotgun so useful.

The only exception is for folks in non free states who can not have modern military pattern rifles. That being said I am not in that situation and will not be at least for a couple more years.

On the plus side of this gun adventure if you buy guns (particularly used ones) at reasonable prices and sell/ trade them in a non desperate 'OMG I have to pay rent tomorrow of I get evicted so I'll take $300 for a gun worth $500'  way you can get almost all of your money back or even make money. I say almost all because for me and I would say most functional adults if I lose $20 on a $500 gun after trying a new concept and disregarding it that is a non issue. However for every time I have lost $20 there was another I have made a whole lot more.

Without getting into details as of late I have made a couple of very good deals. The first I honestly made my profit at the purchase of the item I ended up trading. Basically I got a smoking deal on a BCM AR pistol upper then made it into a pistol. Decided the positives of the pistol did not outweigh the negatives and traded it. Did great there. As to the 870P I responded to a persons add but wasn't desperate. I did good on the deal.

While I hate to admit it the last version of the seemingly continuous Protect 870 (a Plane Jane 870 with standard 28in vented barrel and 18.5in riot barrel) was a lot closer to what I view as the truth than the 870P. If the 870P didn't have ghost ring sites I would have just bought a long barrel and been good but what can ya do.

Down the road I will buy another shotgun. However since I do not hunt, am using my AR as a house gun and really just own a shotgun for general principle or potential future use if I decide to get into those activities (which I keep meaning to do but well job, family, life, etc) there is not a big rush. I will probably wait till winter when down on their luck people sell off hunting shotguns to pay for pre/ after Christmas bills.

I think my future go to 870 will be a basic express model. I will refinish it if the finish is beat as that is  weak point in that model. I will have a long barrel for hunting or sporting (which I have been meaning to try it seems fun) and a short barrel in case it needs to double as a HD gun. The exception would be if I could get one with a 20-22in barrel that took chokes which would actually be ideal. I will set up the shotgun to have a light, a sling and hold some ammo on board.

Or I might just bin the whole defense side and buy a single shot 12 gauge in case I need to hunt small game or whatever.

Thoughts?

Monday, February 16, 2015

AR Optics, Caches and Randomness

Alexander Wolfe discusses optics for the AR. He is leaning hard towards a red dot, specifically an Aimpoint Micro. His comment about weight is valid. The weight of my MTAC is listed by midway at 17 ounces. Of course it needs a mount so that is is going to be a few more ounces. Alex's figure of one weighing a pound and a half is not unrealistic. Depending on how heavily you weigh those ounces in your overall equation that could be a significant consideration.

Then again to play devils advocate the way to make a light weight AR is to keep it simple, iron sights, plastic hand guards, etc. The only additional piece I would put on is a light as that is a genuine capability you can't work around. This means no rail, no optic, no fore grip, no lasers, etc. 

Whether this weight is worthwhile as a trade off is an interesting question. Overall the AR is a light rifle so an extra pound isn't going to make it a drag to pack around. Next we have to talk about accuracy. In my moderately informed opinion pretty much everybody shoots better at any distance over 100m with a magnified optic. While it is true red dot's can be used to engage targets out to, and past, 300m that is usually for a basic body shot against a silhouette of a standing man sized target. Also worth noting the ability to really identify an distinguish targets at any distance with a red dot (0 magnification) is nil. Yes you can shoot to 300-400m but you probably can't really tell if that person is an actual threat or not.

The point that a normal civilian (vs a soldier, etc) will not likely need to fight with a rifle at a couple hundred meters is valid. Cases of normal folks getting in legitimate (vs murder) gun fights at or past 100 meters or so are at best very rare. Honestly I have never heard of one but admittedly I haven't done a ton of research into the topic. That being said one can also make a very legitimate argument a normal American does not in fact need a mag fed military pattern rifle at all. A good shotgun set up for defensive use like my 870p or Alexander's 590 is plenty of gun for burglars or to make someone get off your lawn in a hurricane.

The thing is that I did not put the money and effort into setting up a pretty nice AR because I am worried about a couple meth heads trying to steal my TV. My shotgun amply covers that scenario. I own a military pattern rifle because I enjoy them and am ever so slightly worried something really bad could happen. I'm talking riots, civil unrest, EMP, racial crap, war, etc. The kind of ugly scenarios where I might have to fight multiple individuals in a defensive situation or engage in offensive operations against some sort of threat. If the situation is bad enough that I need my AR I might well need to use it at a 2 or 3 hundred yards.

Generally speaking the benefits of a rifle are that they are effective at long distance and hit really hard. For military pattern rifles add self loading and high capacity to the mix. I fear that parts of the 'tactical community', including some big names are so focused on absolute speed in CQB and end up making optics choices that hinder 400+ meter guns from their maximum potential for the trade off of being a bit better at 0-25/ under 100m.. This neuters the power of the rifle to reach out and touch someone. You could make a legitimate argument all CQB type concerns can he handled with a shotgun. If the goal is a rifle set up for a CQB/ home defense or something is great but for a more general purpose rifle, that might need to reach out and touch someone it is not my ideal setup.While the modern defensive rifle is arguably handier than the shotgun the real benefit is that while it can also be used for door kicking it can also be used to shoot people at a quarter mile or more away. I am not anti red dot it is just that a magnified optic brings so much to the table and the low bottom end (say 1-1.5) mitigates most of the down sides. As to CQB speed at in home ranges, say under 6 or 7 meters one could make a legitimate argument it will be front sight them bang. Heck, I've done some pretty decent CQB stuff by reflex without looking at any sights.

On another note our friend Meister wrote about his 'grey man cache.' Very cool stuff. That is something I would like to emulate in the not so distant future.

On a really weird note Bradley Cooper and Betty White made out on SNL. That is so random I don't know what to say about it.

This evening we watched The Interview. It was enjoyable. I would recommend it to others.

Hope you all have a good night.

Saturday, December 6, 2014

Pic Post- Project 870

Project 870. I had it out to do a couple things. The original velcro I used was not sufficient for the HSGI shot cards and was peeling off. I replaced it with quality Velcro brand industrial Velcro. Also needed to touch up the super classy finish in a couple spots. While it was out I took a picture. 

I am happy with the configuration except the sling. Not sure if I'll bother with it but would like to mount the sling further back on the butt. Also some day I might get it professionally refinished.

Thursday, February 27, 2014

Project 870 is Complete!!!

Initially I planned to just do the gloss clear coat over the newly cut wood. So I covered up the rest and of course the metal parts that would inevitably get some over spray.

Then I decided what the heck, might as well do the whole thing. Maybe bring some new shine to that tired old wood.

 After spraying down the forend I went ahead and did the stock as well.
Project 870 reassembled and complete. It's loaded with 6 rounds of buckshot. Additionally there are 7 more rounds of buckshot on the sidesaddle and 7 slugs on the butt. There is a lot of hearty debate about types of buckshot. Honestly any load of 2 3/4in BUCKSHOT is just fine. Some folks will argue for bird shot as a self defense load but they are either using overly narrow almost canned scenarios or are fools. Sure birdshot will work at 2 feet but so will a machete. The point of firearms is to be able to send projectiles at people some distance from us in order to harm them before they could go all stabby with a knife or whatever.

00 buck is the gold standard of penetration but it doesn't have as many pellets as some might like. #4 buck has plenty of pellets but might not consistently penetrate enough. #1 buck is probably the best overall option. Honestly in my mind any of those options are perfectly valid. In particular I think Federal's new Flight Control Buckshot shows a lot of promise really pushing the scatter gun's realistic range out another 10 yards or so into the 40 meter range. When funds are available I will get some of that stuff, ideally the #1 if I can find it. 

Got fighting shotgun?




Tuesday, February 25, 2014

Project 870 Forend Trimming Part 1

So it was time to finally close out Project 870. To recap I need to trim up the express forend so it does not overlap the receiver in order to allow a shotshell card to go there.
 I unloaded, cleared then disassembled the shotgun and took off the part in question. Minor issue, the original wood forend is stuck. Given that any way I might force it off could well break said forend I figured if I try cutting it while in place worse case it ends up broken anyway. Make sense?
 If you look carefully just forward of the curve on the top of the forend you will see the pencil mark I made where it needs to get cut. That is my highly scientific method of marking it.

Did the cutting with a handheld finish saw I had lying around from some DIY home improvement projects. After cutting it I carefully used a belt sander to get it even and sort of smooth out the outside edge. Aside from a minor nick on the wood on each side (saw slipps, bring it back down in the wrong spot, viola nasty mark on the wood.) After the belt sander I smoothed it out a little bit with some 220 by hand.

The end result isn't perfect but it is good enough for an all go no show shotgun I refinished with spray paint.
Next comes stain, gloss and reassembly.

Sunday, February 16, 2014

The Importance of Spare Parts

I was working on project 870 this weekend. Darned if I didn't take it apart then fail to account for the shell pusher thingie that goes on the end of the spring. Yeah that is probably not the technical name. I realized this after disassembling the weapon and moving it around a time or two over about 3 days, so no way I was going to find that little orange cup.

After some cursing I went to my stash of spare parts and sure enough there was a replacement from a big purchase some years back. In fact it was the spiffy stainless steel van comp one. I got the gun put back together and it seems to be just fine.

While inconvenient that wasn't a huge deal, even if I didn't have the spare. Worst case I'd have just ordered another one and had it in a few days. At least in normal times.

At some point I remembered a similar thing happened during Project AR.Without spare parts on hand both of these guns would have been dead lined (though technically the AR would shoot) for parts that cost less than a 6 pack of craft beer.

That both of these parts losses occurred while guns were disassembled is not lost on me. I suspect more parts are lost that way then broken during use. As a take away you absolutely have to consider small parts that can get lost as well as pieces broken through use. Additionally I would be very careful about detailed stripping on guns in emergency situations. Like empty hard floored room with a white sheet careful.

Got spare parts?

Monday, February 3, 2014

What Did You Do To Prepare This Week?

Still working the issue with the 870. When I have spare time it'll probably be devoted to sawing, filing, sanding and refinishing the forend of the gun. Can't wait to be done with that.

Walker and I went camping this weekend. We were in the backyard in case it didn't do well. He hadn't ever slept in a tent before. Turns out that we were close enough to the house for the WIFI to work so that was nice after he went to bed. It was pretty fun for both of us. He got to eat dinner and hang out outside. I had a fire and did a bit of carving.We will do it again as soon as we can. After another run or two in the yard we'll go someplace nearby overnight.

Sharpened some knives. One I'd used pretty hard and the other I just wanted to tune up. Figure if I sharpen a couple knives weekly or bi weekly that should go a long way towards having a safe, sharp stable of knives.

Did a bit of gun maintenance also. A good excuse to open the safe and ogle my precious.

I'm in the market for a nice medium sized knife. Concept of use would be bushcrafting/ camping/ survival. Broad characteristics are a 4.5-5.5 inch blade, full tang preferably of the same width/ depth going all the way down the blade and handles slapped onto the side. A sheath I don't immediately want to replace would be a plus. Looking at a Tops Brothers of Bushcraft, the Ontario Blackbird SK-5 or maybe the Benchmade 162 Bushcrafter. I'm open for input if anyone has experience with these.

What did you do to prepare this week?



Saturday, February 1, 2014

Project 870 Almost Complete!!!

This is where it all started. A Remington 870 Police Magnum wearing express furniture. Best I can tell this gun pulled Cruiser duty for the Kentucky state Police, was sold probably through Bud K then ended up in the Desert. That is where it ended up being saved from a life of neglect and generally not being owned by yours truly.

I was pretty annoyed with the guy that day. Drive for a ways to meet him and it turns out he was not entirely honest about the guns condition. Ended up leaving with the gun and a couple more 20's than I planned. A combination of cruiser duty and lack of maintenance in that guys care left the finish in terrible shape. It looks just fine at 15 feet but up close you can see significant discoloration and oxidization. The gun will almost surely rust if not slathered in oil. So after test firing it I kept the gun slathered in oil for awhile.

I thought about getting it professionally Keracoted or something. However the cost of that PLUS what I wanted to do to the gun was slightly prohibitive. Just more than I wanted to spend.

Once I got down here I wanted to get this project done so it could be our home defense long gun. The reason for that is largely legal in nature. Guns are common all over the South and non hippie parts of the West. However in particular shotguns are very common in Louisiana. The combination of duck hunting as well as short engagement ranges due to line of site for all game make them particularly handy guns down here. If I have to shoot somebody I would prefer to do it with a gun that is the same or very similar to ones in the prosecutor, judge and juries safe/ cabinet/ closet.

While I prefer an AR of the M4 flavor for close up work this advantage to the shotgun is considerable. Also while I like the M4 better a short barreled pump shotgun is amply capable of any home defense long gun task. There is the added benefit that if something happens I am, at least temporarily, losing a shotgun package worth $500 not an AR that all said and done I probably have 2k into.

Another consideration is that I am far more willing to carry said $500 shotgun as a "truck gun" than a semi automatic rifle. Even if it's an AR/ AK/ FAL you got a great deal on back when those were available it is still important to consider replacement cost. The pump gun is about the bar of value I am willing to risk potential theft of on a trip during normal times.

So my philosophy of use for this project is a home defense shotgun that can also serve as a 'truck gun'. I want to use quality components and do it right but budget is a consideration. First as Alexander Wolfe noted if you get much above the $600 range you are pushing hard on decent entry level AR-15's. Of course those would need ancillary gear like a sling, mags and lights too so upping it to $800 is probably more realistic.

Depending on your budget it is entirely possible to make a $2,500+ fighting shotgun. We are a consumerist society and there is nothing wrong with that. However as American Mercenary noted you can pay Ferrari money for a Fiat in projects or gun builds.

In my mind one of the biggest benefits of the pump shotgun is that they are realistically affordable for anybody but homeless drug addicts. I'm not saying everybody can afford to spend $300ish on a used Remington 870/ Mossberg 500 today but with a little planning and some saving they can afford one in a reasonable amount of time.

We could have a hearty discussion about the benefits of both Rem and Moss platforms. Both are very rugged. The plane Jane Mossberg 500's and their off brand Maverick 88's are cheaper than Remingtons so they offer more value. Then again you have a lot more parts and accessory support with the Remington. I'll close this phase of the discussion by saying they are both fine. Pick one type and buy 10 of them.

As I got to dreaming/ window shopping for this project TEOTWAWKI Blog's excellent Project 590A1. Alexander Wolfe does a great job on research and testing to find the best gear and setup for a particular gun.

So anyway I wanted to get this done in 2014. Running the math if I did the finish myself it wouldn't really cost that much money. Thankfully 'H' recommended Alumahyde II vs plain old spray paint. So I figured out my plan. Some money came in and I ordered the stuff. It showed up in a few days.
The biggest piece of this project was the refinishing for sure. Thankfully Brownells has a series of videos 1, 2, 3, etc. After some reading it seems that preparation is at least as important as the spraying.

First I disassembled the gun. Since I was putting on a sling mount I had to take the stock off anyway so I just did it then instead of covering up the stock with tape and a plastic bag or something.
I cleaned the gun and degreased it. Since I'd been using the 'wetter the better' theory of gun maintenance that took some doing.


Next I used masking tape to cover up the parts I didn't want to paint. No pics of this but I covered the trigger guard and the front sight as well as both ends of the barrel. Filled the receiver with used paper towels from the cleaning then taped them into place.
It was too cold to paint in the garage but since I had the place to myself there were options. It was also a happy accident that I had a bunch of scrap carpet lying around. Laid 2 big pieces down on the kitchen floor (the easiest to clean worst case) as a ground cloth. Brought in a lawn/ patio chair that already had a bit of paint on it from another project to lean the pieces on.

I did the sling mount so it would match.

Then I painted. Overall it went pretty well. The only real sad face was a run on the barrel I foolishly tried to wipe off with a paper towel. It smeared and was really unattractive.
I tried painting over it but that didn't work. Ended up just sanding that part down and repainting. That time went better. At least enough so that I decided not to try my luck messing with it anymore.

This brings us to a point of discussion. I simply was not in a hurry to put the amount of cash into this gun to get it professionally refinished. That meant doing it myself. Do it yourself projects well, have do it yourself results. I'd say the shotgun looks fine but you will not mistake it for being professionally finished. Honestly I am OK with this. After some deliberation on the matter I figured worst case if I hate the paint job I can get it redone professionally later or try again myself. The advantage of destroying a gun's original finish (or getting one that is rough anyway) is that you can't do it twice. Sort of like murder after the first one the rest are free. 

I let the parts dry overnight then put it back together. In doing so I installed the GG&G sling mount and Elzetta light mount with a streamlight light I was using as my handheld tactical type light. Got to replace that now I guess.

After some consideration I decided to replace the old generic 5 shot neoprene shotshell holder with an Essetac card. Just pulled it off, slapped some velcro tape on and then a card on top. Not 100% how durable the velcro I got from the hardware store will be. Worst case I'll order a bigger heavier duty piece later if needed.
When I went to put a card on the side of the receiver I noticed the standard 870 Express forend goes too far back onto the receiver for a card to fit. That led to a Bleg on where to find another oneCommander Zero, the great American survivalist he is had a spare black plastic one lying around. He sent it my way along with a few other goodies gratis. So sometime in the near future I'll be swapping that out and hopefully getting the sidesaddle card put on. I really want both because there is a decent chance if I grab this gun it'll be 3am and I'll be wearing running shorts so all the rounds I'll have will be on the gun. Sure it sits by my cobbled together shotgun fighting load, which I will discuss in a future post but I might not have time for that so more rounds on the gun the better.

I took it out for a quick test fire to make sure it still goes bang. It still does. So now it is loaded up and in the Sentry Safe Home Defender with the Glock.

Pleased to say that Project 870 is finally done or at least within spitting distance of done after the forend swap and sidesaddle card installation. Total expenditure was roughly $500. Would like to get an SOE shotgun micro rig to go with it but am not in any particular hurry to do so. As I get a bit more experience with the different new pieces I may write about them individually.

Thoughts?

Edited to include: I went to swap out the forend this afternoon. Before taking off the Essetac light mount, the extension and barrel I decided on a lark to lay the new plastic forend Zero sent me on top of the old one. They look identical in size. So now I'm looking at just taking a finish saw to the wood forend to cut it down. Worst case on that the 870 Express wood furniture is dirt cheap so if I ruin it that is fine. Thanks to Zero I'd have a functional forend for the duration. It's either that or just buy a shorty plastic forend like the Magpul, Hogue or whatever. Do have a couple ebay auctions pending for dirty cheap 870P furniture but I'm not too optimistic about any of them. Going to sleep on it before doing anything I cannot take back. So finishing this project is slightly stalled. Story of my life.

Saturday, January 25, 2014

Remington 870 Police Wood Forend Bleg

I haven't really talked about it but Project 870 is almost done. Don't worry I took pictures and will talk about each phase of assembly as well as the concept of use behind the overall project in 2-3 posts coming shortly.Was just too busy today to get to it.

However I ran into a problem. When I went to mount the velcro for the essetac card that I plan to use as a sidesaddle I ran into an issue. My standard 870 wood forend comes over the receiver by about 2 inches. This means no can haz card or side saddle which makes me sad.

I don't especially want to take a saw to the wood I've got. Sure I could do it but I do not have the equipment or expertise to make it look anything but bubba made.

Yes I know that for $20-30 bucks I can get some sort of plastic forend. That is not what I want to do. Given that I've saved a few bucks so far on the project I'm willing to pay a bit to finish it right. Did some research and it looks like I need an 870 Police wood forend. I'd rather do that then take a saw to the forend I have, sand it and try to finish it to not look like doo doo which I will still try before getting a hogue overmolded black stock or a magpul one.

Or if it turns out to be financially insane or a total PITA I will just scrap the receiver mounted card for now but I really do not like that option. Having 21 rounds on the gun appeals to me a lot. Given that I would quite possibly be nekid except running shorts and have not learned to store shotgun shells between my butt cheeks I'd like more rounds on the gun than less. I want to find a setup that works.

Assistance in finding a sanely priced 870 Police forend would be greatly appreciated.Used in good or even high end fair condition is fine. Can swap stuff or pay cash.

Tuesday, January 21, 2014

What Did You Do To Prepare This Week?

It was a pretty good week here. I ordered the stuff to move forward with Project 870 which is long overdue. Also picked up a castle nut wrench and a wool blanket. Repacked the Bug Out Bag which is good. While not explicitly blog related I worked to knock off eating out. Right now I'm home alone so it's easy and very tempting to just grab something. Last week I ate out once on Friday night so that was good. Got a chef salad for lunch today because I was craving something fresh and green like crazy. Only halfway went shopping last week so fresh and green haven't been on the menu for awhile. This week I'm going to dial it up a notch and try to keep cooking but work in more veggies n fresh fruits. Suppose this means I do need to go shopping pretty quick here, like tomorrow. Between that stuff, finishing Point of Impact and some projects at home I've been a pretty busy beaver.

This coming week I am going to finish the project at home. Hopefully the stuff for Project 870 arrives this week so I can get going on that over the coming weekend. Other than that it's just sustained excellence on all fronts.

What did you do to prepare this week?


Saturday, January 18, 2014

Saturday Night Ramblings

I found myself in Walmart the other day. Needed a haircut and some light work on the family hauler and there is only one place to do both of those things around here. Turns out everybody else had the same idea! So I was waiting for both things and looking at the ammo situation.

It was actually pretty good. Lots of .223, 7.62x39, .308 and of course all the shotgun shells and hunting type calibers you could want. A guy was talking to the dude working behind the counter. Guy didn't now what type of ammo his SKS shot but wanted to buy some. Dude said 7.62x54R but Guy was not exactly convinced. I said it was 7.62x39. Walmart Dude was happy somebody else was dealing with his problem. Guy was not entirely convinced. He asked if I was sure to which I replied that I was. He asked the same question a similar way. I said I was absolutely positive and would bet him a thousand dollars cash on the matter. Guy was convinced. That narrowed it down to caliber. Dude had both steel cased (Wolf I think) and brass cased ammo. Guy wasn't sure about the difference.

That lead to a 2 minute discussion. Since Guy didn't reload (thank God!) we agreed steel cased would suit his needs at a much more agreeable price. Guy bought 3 boxes and we both went about our days.

Today I had to run some errands and ended up at a surplus store. Got a castle nut wrench which I am long overdue for purchasing and a used USGI wool blanket, picked up the blanket for $10 which I was pretty happy with. After that I went to scout out a place to do some camping. It looks good. In my time driving around the woods here I definitely realized the longest line of site you get here is under 200 meters with under 100 being more common. That's bumped my desire to acquire a precision bolt action rifle, lately boosted by the book I am currently reading Point of Impact (Thanks Zero and Harry Flashman!), down a big notch. Short of improbable shots down a strait road, in a field, etc Project AR could easily dominate any shooting tasks here, hell an iron sighted 30-30 would do around 90% of it just fine and a shotgun could cover 70% or so.

I may go camping tomorrow but it depends on how far I get on a project at home. As a kid and teenager I absolutely loved camping. I went at least monthly forever and for multiple years about every other weekend. Then I joined the Army and subsequently started sleeping outside all the time for work it ceased to be any fun. Since then I could probably count the amount of times I've slept outside on the ground, outside of work,  on one hand. Each time involved family so I was pretty much stuck. Now I am for better or worse at a place in my career where I have been removed from that sort of thing for awhile. I sort of miss it.

That is good because incidentally Walker seems to be expressing an interest in camping. He went with Mother in Law in the drive way a week or so back. Except he noted it wasn't real camping because "the truck didn't move and we didn't sleep in a tent" (She has a camper and it was going to be 20 that night) but he seemed to have fun all the same. So maybe we'll start doing some of that in the yard then ultimately out and about. He is getting towards the right age to start doing more outside stuff. We've got the gear so that is not an issue. Anyway we will see where that goes.

Today while going over my BOB I made some changes. Added a few pouches to give me more readily accessible space. Aside from that mostly it was transitioning to a winter setup admittedly a bit late. Added a pair (top/ bottom) of silk weight long underwear and a wool sweater. I took out a waffle top that had been my sole piece of cold weather gear (for summer in AZ). Swapped a desert pattern goretex for a multicam shell to better fit the area. Also added a pair of wool gloves. If I am smart in the spring when I ditch that stuff I'll put it all in a box or bag to make the transition easy in the future.

I realized some holes that need to be filled today going through our gear. They are going to be listed not so much for you but so I can remember in a month or whatever when I want to fill them:
3x wide mouth stainless steel water bottles (1x ghb, 1x everyday 1x wifey)
1x nesting cup for 1q bottle with carry pouch
3x Louisiana state maps (or a western central LA type map if I can fine one larger than parish but below state sized)
3x eastern Texas maps if available
1x trowel
2 pair wool socks
a kydex belt holster that will hold a Glock 9 with a light yet be reasonably concealable. The big Safariland is great for a battle belt, duty, OC role but I'd like to have a holster (raven concealment, bravo concealment, etc) that could hide under an oversized shirt or a sweatshirt. Should get a pair of good mag pouches along with it.

Tomorrow or the next day I'm going on a monster rant about Bushcrafting. I think bushcrafting is to camping what crossfit is to exercise. They do so many good things but also do some really silly things and take it all so seriously. That should be a fun talk.

I pulled the trigger and ordered the stuff for Project 870. Brownells matte black Alumahyde, Elzetta light mount, GG&G rear sling mount and a half dozen essetac cards. I can procure a light locally and have some slings in my box o gun junk. Think I ultimately want to use a Magpul MS3 to have the 2-1 capability but I'm not sure. Looking forward to getting that all set up.

Realized that one of my not explicitly defined but over arching goals for this year is to have all the guns I currently own set up how I want them to be. Of course there is some evolution as new products come out, we test stuff, yadda yadda yadda but instead of buying another gun or piece of kit I want to get the stuff I have all squared away.

Got some Lone Star beer the other day. One of those cliche Texas things I had to try. It is pretty good straddling the line of being flavorful without too heavy or busy.

Anyway I'm bored of writing now so it's time to wrap this up. Talk to you all later.


Saturday, January 11, 2014

Project 870P Soliciting Input



I got a little bit of money so it's time to dust off the 870P and finally finish this project. Leaning heavily on TEOTWAWKI Blog's Project 590A1 here is what I am looking at:
Paint- DIY flat black. The finish on this gun is terrible so I'm going to rattle can it flat black. Honestly I don't care what it looks like but need a reasonably (more than exposed metal) corrosion resistant finish to be able to use the gun. Will keep the wood, well wood colored for aesthetic as well as social/ legal reasons. I want the gun to look as much like the same pump shotgun every Louisiana resident seems to own 5 of if I have to go to court.
Sling- Single point as of right now till I get a better plan though I may just stick with it. For a house gun honestly a sling isn't THAT important other than that I want one.
Light Mount- Elzetta ZMS
Light- Either a Streamlight or a Surefire G2. A good basic pretty bright light
Ammo carrying (on gun)
Sidesaddle- Essetac shotgun cards.
Buttstock- shot shell carrier generic type
Total this will be something like 21 rounds on the gun.
Ammo carrying (off gun)
2 more essetac cards in my Costa Leg Rig along with 2 pistol reloads and a hand held light. This will probably go on a duty belt with a holster, an IFAK and some zip ties to become the "bump in the night belt".
This will bring the round count to 35 shotgun shells and 3x pistol mags. Plenty for an HD setup in my mind.

A bag with about 35 rounds of loose OOB and 3x 5 rd boxes of slugs. I would like to replace this with a claymore bag (they have 2 pouches and would be perfect for this. If anybody has one to spare I'd love to trade something for it. I would grab this if I was going outside which admittedly is a point where I would think hard about switching back to my AR but who knows, this would be a nice hurricane setup. My shotgun has ghost ring sights so after I confirm zero for slugs it could reach as far as I can see myself shooting anyway.

To the ammo discussion. There are lots of options but as I've discussed before keep the birdshot for little birds.  I favor #4 BUCK because it gives a whole lot of sufficiently sized projectiles. More holes= more blood loss and more chances to hit the vital die right now body parts. If carrying this gun in the wild I tend to throw in some #4 or #6 shot just in case I need to do a Wilderness Walk Out.

Anyway before I pull the trigger I wanted to get your input. Maybe I'm missing something.

Thoughts?

Friday, December 27, 2013

2014 New Years Resolutions- Soliciting Input

I am going to try a different way of breaking these up this year. More by function than anything else.

Edited to include: the stuff in light grey are long shots. By long shots I mean they are not realistically funded based on projected levels of spending. Admittedly this is pretty unscientific since I do not have an exact projected preps budget that is divided amongst different areas. It's probably more of a gut feeling based on the last few years of what I will realistically be able to do than anything else.

Shoot
Skills:
Attend a quality defensive pistol course. Scheduled in one for early 2014.
Try to attend an Appleseed if I can. Due to scheduling and other life stuff this is a long shot.
Following said defensive pistol course begin a dry fire regimen.
Shoot more often. Ideally at least monthly but certainly not more than bi monthly.

Stuff:
Finish the 870 P project. Refinish, light, sling, ammo cards, ammo holding system to match.
Get a .30 cal precision rifle almost surely a .308.
I have been semi casually looking for a single shot 12 gauge shotgun to go all Dave Canterbury. If I find one I will buy it.
Set up the big wheel gun the way I want it. Grips, holster, belt, speed loaders, etc all
Put nice grips on the 642 like Alexander Wolfe's.
 Maybe start on an AR pistol

Consumables and minor stuff:
250 rounds buckshot
250 rounds #4 shot
250 slugs
Get a quality kydex outside waistband Glock holster with mag pouches to match
4 Ruger 10/22 BXP mags
A case of 5.56 ammo
A stripped AR-15 lower receiver
Long shot a case of 9mm FMJ and a second case of 5.56 ammo
10 each PMAGs
 6x Glock 17 mags
I can always use another 10/22 or a Glock 19 but those are big time long shots.


Move
Fitness:
Run more, keeping better track of it. Maybe do a marathon or something.
Keep up a decent weight lifting regimen with hard circuit based body weight type stuff.
Generally keep on doing good things

Stuff:
Break in all extra boots that are currently accessible.
Not sure exactly where this fits but I want to firm up our heavy (vehicle) bug out packing list then have that stuff ready to go. Also continue developing all of our systems
Purchase a small enclosed trailer. 

Communicate:
Skills: Get a ham radio license
Get better with HTLM and web coding stuff (any advice would be great)

Stuff:
Get a ham radio, probably one of the little Baeofong (spelling) setups to start.
Get a set of 2 (4 would be better) good FRS radios with head sets. I have a pair in storage that might work but I've got to test them.
Get a scanner 

Sustain:
Keep building our food supply to the interim goal of having a year's worth for 4 people
Get chickens
Start growing some herbs n stuff. Maybe sprouts too.

Survive:
Continue to improve our cache situation
Work to develop primitive skills
Pick up another full tang medium sized survival/ general purpose knife or maybe two plus stuff to round out some of the redundant parts of my various kits
Get 3-4 more wool blankets

Alternative Energy:
Skills: Use the stuff we have more to figure out how to make it work for our needs. This includes a good plan for charging Wifey's smart phone on the go.

Stuff : Wifey mentioned wanting to get a generator before hurricane season. We are far enough North in Louisiana so as to avoid utter destruction but can definitely lose power. A buddy up here lost power for a week during Rita. This worried Wifey. So we might just get a generator. Probably an EU 2000 like Zero has.

Stashing a half dozen or so military gas cans would be nice. Enough gas to completely fill up both our vehicles twice and run a genny enough to keep the freezer cold, charge batteries and watch a bit of news for at least 2 weeks (a month would be better) would be great. Got to do some math on that one.

That's what I have planned for this coming year. If there are any major changes as things calm down I'll publish a final draft, otherwise I'll run with this one.

What do you plan to do?

Friday, October 25, 2013

Project 870P Completion; Duracoat at Home?


I'm looking to get moving on Project 870P. The gun needs to be refinished. There aren't any local folks I know of who could park or ceracote it. Since my oven will not fit an 870 ceracoting at home is out. Since I am (and this is another conversation) looking at making it the house gun I want it to be as plane jane as possible which means black and wood not rattle can green.

Anyway I'm looking at duracoating it. Has anyone done duracoat at home? I do not have a compressor or paint gun or whatever or plain to buy those things. Input is appreciated here.

Heck I'm considering just taping over the wood and sights then rattle canning it flat black.

After the finish issue is settled I'll slap a light and a way to carry ammo on it. The ammo carrying solution will be velcro and a half dozen or so of the card style 5 shot shell holders. Toss on a sling and the project will be done.

Total cost I need to finish the project: Ballpark $200.

Sunday, July 21, 2013

Getting Serious

Until I lose 10 pounds.....no more booze for this guy. I am eating well during the week and blowing it on the weekends cough and an occasional Wednesday cough.

Until I purchase a quality kydex holster for the G19/TLR1 combo with a good mag pouch, 250 rounds of #4 shot, 250 rounds of buckshot, 500 rounds of 9mm, 500 rounds of 5.56, 1k in 7.62x39 and finish Project 870 I will not purchase or start saving for another firearm. (The exception to this would be if I find a good deal on a single shot 12 gauge. They don't cost much and I have been looking for one for awhile.)

Time to get serious.

Tuesday, May 28, 2013

What Did You Do To Prepare This Week?


Swapped a shotgun for one that better suits my needs. The new (to me) Remington 870 Police Magnum is looking pretty decent. I really like it with the wood. The finish is pretty worn though thankfully there is no rust (I #*$((# hate dealing with rusty guns). I will get it re parkerized when convenient.

Read Pastor Joe Fox's book The Survivalist Family.

I put together a bunch of meals for our bags. Got some more modifications to make here based on Pastor Joe's excellent book.

While it didn't help me I taught a land navigation class to some people. Calling it a group might be a little strong but people helping each other learn useful skills is a good thing. Also being able to talk candidly about our worries with flesh and blood people who have similar mindsets is nice. This was 'classroom' and we will follow up in 2-3 weeks with a practical field portion. Teaching people is fun.

This coming week I want to do a few things. Would like to really get our bags set up, if stuff is needed at a minimum I want to come up with a complete list of what needs to be purchased. It would be nice to get a sling on the 870 and just maybe pattern it for shot and zero the sights for slugs. May also do some other stuff I cannot think of now.

What did you do to prepare this week?



Friday, May 24, 2013

Project 870 Furniture Update

Sometimes in life things just work out. I listed the other 870 tonight. Mentioned I'd sell it with the Blackhawk furniture instead of the wood for the same price. Turns out a guy wants the other gun with the Blackhawk furniture. That deal may or may not happen (it ain't over till it's over) but switching furniture was a hassle so it's all staying where it is. 

I like the 870P with the wood. Classic and functional.

Project 870 V2 Police Magnum!!!

For awhile I have been on the fence about this project. Part of me knew that it might just make sense to get a purpose build defensive shotgun. Once I figured in the cost of a tube extension and such economically it would be about even. So I've been sort of watching for the right gun. Around here the trend in shotguns is to bolt on a bunch of stupid cheap accessories then believe your shotgun is now worth $700. Anyway I said something might happen on this project today and it did.

Enter Project 870 V2 Remington Police Magnum
Dog had to get in on the action. As you can see this gun has Ghost Ring sights and an M4 style adjustable stock. The sights are from Iron Sights Gun Works.
The stock and forend are Blackhawk SPEC Ops. The stock is adjustable in the M4 style I hate (except on M4's) but that's what it came with. I'm either going to swap the furniture for standard furniture (or the Hogue equivalent) or buy standard furniture and put this stuff away as a backup set.

The finish on this gun is not great. It was probably a police cruiser gun at some point. The guy wasn't entirely honest about that but it gave me a point to negotiate some cash off the price so that was OK. I was on the fence about going all Hoss USMC and painting it anyway so the finish doesn't really matter, just makes that decision easier. However again along the police cruiser gun theme it doesn't seem to have been fired much and the inner workings are very nice, dusty but nice.

Was able to get it out to the range for a little bit today.  The gun is noticeably heavier than a standard 870. These things are built like beasts, which is why I wanted one. It holds 6+1 which is nice. It shoots well though I might need to adjust the sights a little bit. The pistol grip gave a good angle to support the gun but put my hand in the wrong place for the controls. Overall the stock was OK I guess but it's just not for me. Got to handle an 870 with the Magpul furniture and that was really nice. It looks weird but the angles give you a lot of control and the cheek to stock is just right. Darn expensive though so it will be awhile, if ever, before I get one.

The needs for a tube extension and sights are covered as the gun already has them. Aside from replacing the furniture it needs a sling, a light and a way to hold ammo. A sling is easy, spare ammo is easy (velcro and cards), a light is simple but expensive (and I have some decision making to do there).

So that is where Project 870 stands today. The gun that was Project 870 (V1) will be sold to pay for this purchase. I borrowed money from another gun fund to make this happen so the proceeds of the planned sale will replace that cash.

 Now I'm going to see how this dirty girl cleans up.


Thursday, May 23, 2013

Thursday Odds N Ends

Got a post on the Malay Emergency in the pipe but am too scatter brained to write it today. It's my Friday so that is good.

Saw this lovely piece on the Drudge today.

911 Dispatcher Tells Woman About To Be Sexually Assaulted There Are No Cops To Help Her Due To Budget Cuts

 Thoughts in no particular order. 

- I don't know where this gal lived but Josephine County is pretty rural. If a cop needs 30 minutes to get there all they can do is take a report and maybe clean up the mess. Rural people are pretty much on their own anyway.

-I would be interested in  having a conversation about what a Sheriff's role is with the Josephine County Sheriff. Personally as a Sheriff I would answer the important calls myself if nobody else was available.

 - Budget cuts at the state, county and city level are a reality. That means fewer cops in many places. I have issues with a few things some cops do but generally they are good people doing their best and are certainly a force for order in our society. You had better accept that you are becoming more and more on your own. Get ready for it.

  -AMERC wrote about the 5 principles of patrolling today. Good stuff. Sort of like Priorities of Work the 5 P's of Patrolling are solid guidelines to stay within.

  -Project 870 might be taking a significant jump both to the side and forward tomorrow. At the risk of counting my chickens before they are hatched I will keep the details to myself till it's done.

 Well I'm going to put some work into our bags. Have a good night,

Ryan   

 

Thursday, May 2, 2013

Project 870 Paralysis

Alexander Wolfe and Tam's shotguns are coming along nicely. My project is stalled. A week ago I would have said it was pending funds. However upon reflection I just haven't been quite sure where exactly it was going.

At this point instead of turning my shotgun into what I want the idea of simply purchasing a slightly more purpose built gun has come up. For the cost of buying an extension plus what I could probably sell my gun for one with a factory extension could be purchased. Once I $25 in a couple doo dads plus pay for shipping everything this option would probably SAVE me a few bucks. Given the randomness of used gun availability this option may or may not pan out. I'll give it a couple weeks to see what happens.

For lights I'm going to go with the surefire forend. Probably the most expensive way to skin that cat but I think its the best.

Anyway that is the status of Project 870.
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